[gothic-l] Sarmatians and Goths

[Bertil Häggman]

Xoxana,

If I am not mistaken the Sarmatioans were the last wave of
Iranian-speaking nomads to reach Europe. In the sixth to fourth
centuries B.C., according to my info, they were living
east of the Scythians. Herodotus, for example, placed them
"fifteen days journey northward from the northern tip of
Lake Maeotis" (east of Crimea). Sarmatians were descendants
of the Srubnians.

It was not until the Goths arrived from Scandinavia that the
Sarmatians lost their power. But they had a modus vivendi
with the Goths and there was extensive intermarriage.
The Sarmatian contacts with the Goths has been discussed
on the Germanic list. There is extensive grave material
both from Sarmatians and Goths in eastern Poland.

Gothically

Bertil


>       Stalin came from the South Ossetian Autonomous Republic of
> Georgia. Some people say he was an ethnic Ossetian. The name Djugashvili
> is Georgian, though, at least the -vili part.
>      You can't distinguish language from race.  The ancient Alans were
> yellow-haired and spoke an Iranian dialect.  The Ossetian language is
> descended from the Alan language.
> The racial type of the ancient Alans has largely been destroyed by
> mixture with other types such as Turks and Mongols.
>      It is irrational to use a political or ad hominem argument to make
> a scholarly point.
> I have presented evidence that the ancient Iranians were of the northern
> European type.  You don't have any evidence at all on the subject.
> Name-calling is not evidence.  Political diatribes are not logical.
>       I have more evidence of studies of the skulls of ancient Iranians,
> but I don't think you are interested in facts.



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