[gothic-l] Re: Suartuas - the ON Connection

[faltin2001]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "Bertil Haggman" <mvk575b at t...> wrote:
> Troels,
>
> Maybe one should mention in this connection
> Surt (the Black), who was the keeper of the
> underworld fire (see Gylfaginning). On Iceland
> connected with volcanic activity. Surt was
> guardian of Muspelheim and played an
> important role in Ragnaroek.
>
> The question should also possibly touch on the
> question of Surt/Surtur/SurtR being a common ON
> first name.
>
> Finally in general terms personal Eruli names, if not
> neutral or Gothic, seem to be Scandinavian ( compare Alvith,
> Fara, Fulkaris, Hariso, (H)aruth, (H)rodvulf).



What makes the names Fara, Fulkaris, Hariso, Haruth and Rodulf,
particularly Scandinavian? Fara, is clearly an east Germanic name,
which was also used by some Bavarian dukes; Fulkaris and its
derivation are still in existence in Germany and Frisia; Hariso was
mentioned as a *femal* name on a fibula from Denmark, but the Herul
with that name was a man. The name Rodulf is in no way specifically
Scandinavian either, but is common Germanic.

The PN Suarto/Swarto (old high German/low German suart/swart means
black) is given repeatedly in the lists of monks and abbots of South
German monastries (Lorsch) from the 7th and 8th centuries and a court
official/regional administrator at the court of Ludwig the Pious was
called Swarto in the early 9th century. It was also argued that the
tribal name Suardones means the Black - maybe the PN Suartuas/Suarto
was derived from this tribal name, just like Saxo means the Saxon,
Friso the Frisian, or Hasso the Hessian?

Dirk




>
> Gothically
>
> Bertil
>
>
> > Could Procopius' name Suartuas be the ON name Surtur/SurtR?


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