[gothic-l] Re: Suartuas - the ON Connection

[troels_brandt]

When I asked it was not my intention to repeat the discussion from
last November - and what followed.

The names below were discussed, and there was no doubt, that Suart
could mean Black.
The problem regarding Suartuas is the second "a".

Troels



--- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., "Bertil Haggman" <mvk575b at t...> wrote:
> > Troels,
> >
> > Maybe one should mention in this connection
> > Surt (the Black), who was the keeper of the
> > underworld fire (see Gylfaginning). On Iceland
> > connected with volcanic activity. Surt was
> > guardian of Muspelheim and played an
> > important role in Ragnaroek.
> >
> > The question should also possibly touch on the
> > question of Surt/Surtur/SurtR being a common ON
> > first name.
> >
> > Finally in general terms personal Eruli names, if not
> > neutral or Gothic, seem to be Scandinavian ( compare Alvith,
> > Fara, Fulkaris, Hariso, (H)aruth, (H)rodvulf).
>
>
>
> What makes the names Fara, Fulkaris, Hariso, Haruth and Rodulf,
> particularly Scandinavian? Fara, is clearly an east Germanic name,
> which was also used by some Bavarian dukes; Fulkaris and its
> derivation are still in existence in Germany and Frisia; Hariso was
> mentioned as a *femal* name on a fibula from Denmark, but the Herul
> with that name was a man. The name Rodulf is in no way specifically
> Scandinavian either, but is common Germanic.
>
> The PN Suarto/Swarto (old high German/low German suart/swart means
> black) is given repeatedly in the lists of monks and abbots of
South
> German monastries (Lorsch) from the 7th and 8th centuries and a
court
> official/regional administrator at the court of Ludwig the Pious
was
> called Swarto in the early 9th century. It was also argued that the
> tribal name Suardones means the Black - maybe the PN
Suartuas/Suarto
> was derived from this tribal name, just like Saxo means the Saxon,
> Friso the Frisian, or Hasso the Hessian?
>
> Dirk
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Gothically
> >
> > Bertil
> >
> >
> > > Could Procopius' name Suartuas be the ON name Surtur/SurtR?


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