[gothic-l] Re: Visi and Ostro

[andreas.schwarcz at UNIVIE.AC.AT]

Dear Ingemar,
although I find your argument on the whole sound, things are a bit
more complicated. You should not underestimate those Greuthungi
mixed with Alans (and some Huns) under the leadership of Alatheus
and Saphrac, who were settled by Gratian in Pannonia in 380 A.D.
and whose descendents followed Ataulf to Italy and Gaul. They were
strong enough to secure Ataulf the kingship of Alaric's army after
the death of Alaric. So a sizeable group of former Greuthungi took
part in the formation of the Visigoths. And the connections between
the Goths under hunnic domination (and their decendants, the
Ostrogoths) and the Visigoths continued in the fifth century and the
beginning of the sixth. The Visigoths integrated several times strong
Ostrogothic groups, the followers of Videricus, those of the two
Vidimiri, the entourage of Thiudigotho, Theodoric's daughter, who
married Alaric II, and the army which secured Theodoric's kingship,
when he became also king of the Visigoths in 510. I showed this in
detail in an article just published:

Andreas Schwarcz, The Visigothic Settlement in Aquitaine.
Chronology and Archeology. In: Ralph W. Mathisen and Danuta
Shanzer (eds.), Society and Culture in Late Antique Gaul. Revisiting
the Sources. Ashgate Publishing Ltd, Aldershot, Burlington USA ,
Singapure, Sydney 2001, pp.15-25

Kind regards
                        Andreas
ao.Univ.Prof.Dr.Andreas Schwarcz
Institut fuer oesterreichische Geschichtsforschung
Universitaet Wien
Dr.Karl-Lueger-Ring 1
A 1010 Wien
Oesterreich
tel.0043/1/42-77/272-16
fax 0043/1/42-77/92-72
email andreas.schwarcz at univie.ac.at


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