[gothic-l] Accepting Elias Wessens Conclusion

[george knysh]

--- Bertil Haggman <mvk575b at tninet.se> wrote:
> It would be interesting if you went further
> and discussed the reasons that you think
> the Regnum Ostrogotorum under Ermanaric
> in the north did not reach the Baltic Sea.

*****GK: More properly the "regnum Greuthungorum".
Basically because Ammianus (who almost certainly had
it from the Goths themselves) makes no such claim,
either explicitly or implicitly. He merely notes that
Hermanaric was "a very warlike king" feared by his
neighbours because of his many military exploits
(rather than conquests, or even tribute impositions).
This is more in line with other passages of Jordanes
describing loud if ephemeral Gothic victories over
Gepids and Vandals not commensurate with
empire-building. And the struggle of Vithimiris with
the Alans is not prefaced with any statement about
some collapse of empire.****
>
> (BH)One reason for the possible inclusion of
> south Scandinavia is according to RLK
> the name similaraties  on the Sparloesa
> stone (Erik and Alrik), the Tjodrik of the
> Roekstone and Goetrik, Hjaprik, Heidrek
> and Hredrik (Roerik) with the names of
> Gothic rulers: Theoderik, Alarik, Roderik, Atala-
> rik, Erarik, Eurik etc.

*****GK: I don't understand this argument at all.
Gothic -rik is the equivalent of Gaulish -rix (Latin
rex, Thracian res, Indic raj). Many Germanic peoples
had composite names with this "royalty denoting"
suffix.******


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