[gothic-l] Re: Heyderdahl

[Pat Christiansen]

  faltin2001 <dirk at smra.co.uk> wrote: 
--- In gothic-l at y..., "tigerlipped" <tigerlipped at y...> wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> > --- In gothic-l at y..., "tigerlipped" <tigerlipped at y...> wrote:
> > > --- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The area of the Heyerdahl search had Eruli inhabitants 
after 
> > they
> > > > > migrated to northern shore of the Black Sea after the Goti.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Russian and Ukrainian archaeologists seem to dispute this 
> > nowadays. 
> > > > There has been no trace of Germanic (Chernyakhovsk) cultural 
> > > remains 
> > > > in the area north of the Sea of Azov. Instead, there has been 
> > > plenty 
> > > > of evidence that Sarmatians and Alans living there. It is 
> > probably 
> > > > more reasonable to assume that the Eastern Heruls lived 
further 
> > > west 
> > > > of the Black Sea (Moldova?), perhaps in the same region as 
the 
> > > > Eudosiani, together with whom they may have reached the area 
in 
> > the 
> > > > first place. 
> > > > 
> > > > Dirk
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your replies to my question. I have another, if 
you 
> > > please. According to Jordanes, (De Rebus Geticis, as quoted by 
> > Thomas 
> > > Hodgkin,'Barbarian Invasion of the Roman Empire. page 464 I 
> > > Visigothic Invasions) when Alaric died at Cosenza, in 410, the 
> > > Busento was diverted from its normal course so that the Gothic 
> > > leader's grave could be excavated beneath it. 
> > > 
> > > When the tomb was finished, the stream was directed back into 
its 
> > > normal channel. According to legend (?) Alaric was buried with 
a 
> > > great deal of treasure. Has any attempt ever been made to 
locate 
> > his 
> > > tomb? 
> > > 
> > > Hilsen
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Hilsen,
> > 
> > I understand that many attempts have been made to find Alaric's 
> > grave. If I remember correctly, a news-report in the 1980s caused 
> > some uproar when it claimed that the grave of Alaric had been 
> > discovered. The place turned out to be from the 9th century. 
> > Unfortunately, with Heyerdahl dead there is probably nobody 
arround 
> > anymore to launch an expedition to find Alaric's grave;-)
> > 
> > The poem by August Graf von Platen will probably inspire many 
> > treasure hunters in future:
> > 
> > „Nächtlich am Busento lispeln bei Cosenza dumpfe Lieder; / Aus 
den 
> > Wassern schallt es Antwort, und in Wirbeln klingt es wieder! / 
Und 
> > den Fluß hinauf, hinunter ziehn die Schatten tapferer Goten, / 
Die 
> > den Alarich beweinen, ihres Volkes besten Toten......"
> > 
> > cheers
> > Dirk
> 
> Thank you Dirk for your interesting reply. You have whetted my 
> curiosity.Although my German is wanting, to say the least, I 
wouldn't 
> mind being the ear into which the eddying Busento whispers it's 
> watery secrets. (Did I receive the gist of the verse?) Thank you 
> again.;-)
> 
> Hilsen


Something like that, yes. Don't worry if you find that difficult, I 
had to learn the whole poem in school, but the structure of the 
sentences is so complicated that I found that extremely difficult, 
even as native speaker.

cheers,
Dirk 


Thank you, Dirk, for your reply. I just realized I have not given you or the readers of this site my name. It is, Ben, and I live in Western Canada, and the U.S..I am interested in the origin of the so-called Indo-European languages. Are you in Germany? If so, what part?

Ben



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