[gothic-l] Re: Heyderdahl

[faltin2001]

--- In gothic-l at y..., Pat Christiansen <tigerlipped at y...> wrote:
> 
>  
>   faltin2001 <dirk at s...> wrote: 
> --- In gothic-l at y..., "tigerlipped" <tigerlipped at y...> wrote:
> > --- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> > > --- In gothic-l at y..., "tigerlipped" <tigerlipped at y...> wrote:
> > > > --- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The area of the Heyerdahl search had Eruli inhabitants 
> after 
> > > they
> > > > > > migrated to northern shore of the Black Sea after the 
Goti.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Russian and Ukrainian archaeologists seem to dispute this 
> > > nowadays. 
> > > > > There has been no trace of Germanic (Chernyakhovsk) 
cultural 
> > > > remains 
> > > > > in the area north of the Sea of Azov. Instead, there has 
been 
> > > > plenty 
> > > > > of evidence that Sarmatians and Alans living there. It is 
> > > probably 
> > > > > more reasonable to assume that the Eastern Heruls lived 
> further 
> > > > west 
> > > > > of the Black Sea (Moldova?), perhaps in the same region as 
> the 
> > > > > Eudosiani, together with whom they may have reached the 
area 
> in 
> > > the 
> > > > > first place. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Dirk
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you for your replies to my question. I have another, if 
> you 
> > > > please. According to Jordanes, (De Rebus Geticis, as quoted 
by 
> > > Thomas 
> > > > Hodgkin,'Barbarian Invasion of the Roman Empire. page 464 I 
> > > > Visigothic Invasions) when Alaric died at Cosenza, in 410, 
the 
> > > > Busento was diverted from its normal course so that the 
Gothic 
> > > > leader's grave could be excavated beneath it. 
> > > > 
> > > > When the tomb was finished, the stream was directed back into 
> its 
> > > > normal channel. According to legend (?) Alaric was buried 
with 
> a 
> > > > great deal of treasure. Has any attempt ever been made to 
> locate 
> > > his 
> > > > tomb? 
> > > > 
> > > > Hilsen
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Hilsen,
> > > 
> > > I understand that many attempts have been made to find Alaric's 
> > > grave. If I remember correctly, a news-report in the 1980s 
caused 
> > > some uproar when it claimed that the grave of Alaric had been 
> > > discovered. The place turned out to be from the 9th century. 
> > > Unfortunately, with Heyerdahl dead there is probably nobody 
> arround 
> > > anymore to launch an expedition to find Alaric's grave;-)
> > > 
> > > The poem by August Graf von Platen will probably inspire many 
> > > treasure hunters in future:
> > > 
> > > „Nächtlich am Busento lispeln bei Cosenza dumpfe Lieder; / Aus 
> den 
> > > Wassern schallt es Antwort, und in Wirbeln klingt es wieder! / 
> Und 
> > > den Fluß hinauf, hinunter ziehn die Schatten tapferer Goten, / 
> Die 
> > > den Alarich beweinen, ihres Volkes besten Toten......"
> > > 
> > > cheers
> > > Dirk
> > 
> > Thank you Dirk for your interesting reply. You have whetted my 
> > curiosity.Although my German is wanting, to say the least, I 
> wouldn't 
> > mind being the ear into which the eddying Busento whispers it's 
> > watery secrets. (Did I receive the gist of the verse?) Thank you 
> > again.;-)
> > 
> > Hilsen
> 
> 
> Something like that, yes. Don't worry if you find that difficult, I 
> had to learn the whole poem in school, but the structure of the 
> sentences is so complicated that I found that extremely difficult, 
> even as native speaker.
> 
> cheers,
> Dirk 
> 
> 
> Thank you, Dirk, for your reply. I just realized I have not given 
you or the readers of this site my name. It is, Ben, and I live in 
Western Canada, and the U.S..I am interested in the origin of the so-
called Indo-European languages. Are you in Germany? If so, what part?
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> 

Hi Ben,

I am German, from northern Germany (Lower Saxony), but I am living in 
London with my family at the moment.

cheers
Dirk




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