[gothic-l] Re: Counts of Coimbra ?

[Sahin Ahmet]

Dear Ximenez,
 I must say I am impressed with your findings, however which part of the iberian peninsula do you mean. I do not think iberian peninsula does  have a very uniform DNA pattern. do you speak of andalucia? or catalania, extramadurra?
To what extent DNA analysis is reliable? What do you mean by central or northern europe(slavic,germanic?).Did you have any information about DNA anlaysis in anatolia.
As for the basque people, I believe they are a proto-indoeuropean people of the europe who managed to preserve their identity and language like albanians.
"F. E. Ximenez" <jimenezf01 at mail.montclair.edu> wrote: Greetings Sahin,
I believe it is you who stated (as your opinion) that (Carlos Carvalho)
“may have considerable connection to the 'Arabic' people as a Portuguese
…” Your statement seems to infer that considerable admixture, must have
occurred (after) the Moorish invasion of the Visigothic Kingdom in 711.
However it is quite the contrary; - the published work (“Genetic
diversity in the Iberian Peninsula” -1996 - Corte Real; Macaulay;
Bertranpetit and Sykes) found that … “the majority of Iberian [“mtDNA”
(mitochondrial DNA)] lineages resemble those of central and northern
Europe [“being quite close or identical”] (Richards et al. 1996).” The
study further states “only a small proportion of lineages appear to
originate in north Africa”… “It seems therefore that the genetic
contribution by the Moorish presence in the peninsula, which has been
considered by some as substantial, has left little trace in the modern
mtDNA gene pool” (of Iberia).

On the other hand, according to the same study, you are quite right. The
presence of a transition at position 126 of the haplotype in question in
present European populations (found at a 50% frequency in Middle Eastern
populations) and from (6%-12% in European populations ) seems to
indicate that several waves of immigrants from the Middle East entered
and settled in Europe in the period between 6000 and 12000 years before
present. Generally - the latter seems to coincide with the first
evidence of agriculture as well as the “Linienbandkeramik” and Impressed
Ware cultures of central Europe and the Mediterranean coast
respectively.

Enough for now-
Will answer other mail when I'm back in the office on Friday.
Cheers,
Frithunanths Ximenez.





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