[gothic-l] Re: Digest Number 534

[ingemarn2000]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., Ingemar Nordgren <ingemar.nordgren at e...> wrote:
> >
Dirk wrote:

> His findings are confirmed by a number of other archaeologists and
> based on the findings of earlier researchers, as was shown by
> Blischke. In fact, there is a common agreement among archaeologists
> and most historians, which sees the origin of the Goths in the
> autochtonous Wielbark culture.

I am  not sure e.g. Koklowski agrees in all points. Besides I agree,
as stated, that the Gothic concept as a kind of tribe with the name
Gutones/Gudones in Weichsel-area emerged in the Wielbark culture but
Goths in the religious sense, according to my interpretation, started
to develop all over the Scandinavia and Northgermania - note not
Germany - already about 500 BC.


 Concerning the Gothic language it  never  went> > trough the first
shift as far as I know but it differed of course > from> >
Protogermanic if that is what you mean.

> I thought that the first sound-shift created Germanic. Are we talking
> about different things?

Yes, obviously, since I meant the shift from Protogermanic -
Urgermanisch - till the division in different Germanic language
groups. I.e. in this case the division between North Germanic and East
Germanic.


Kindly
Ingemar


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