[gothic-l] Re: the Thuringians

[ravichaudhary2000]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
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Dirk writes > Hello all,

I think that this relationship between Thuringians and Goths is
rather interesting, and I think that there is more to it than is
currently suggested in most of the literature.

 The Thuringians were first mentioned in 400AD, and people of the
Sintana de Mures/Chernyakhovsk culture (the same culture as the
Goths) were likely a dominante force in the creation of the
Thuringian kingdom (according to Berthold Schmidt).

 Two
archaeological groups, the Niemberger and Gross Badegaster groups
have migrated to the heartland of Thuringia from the middle Danube
in the last quarter of the 4th century, probably in flight from the
Huns. They also brought the practice of artificial skull deformation
to Thuringia, which has the highest share of all Germanic ethnic
groups of this steppe nomadic custom.

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Ravi> " practice of artificial skull deformation " This is also a
Hunnic, Saka, Massagetae custom. Looking eastward may not be all that
unprofitable.

Due to a lack of knowledge, and an over reliance on Classical
writers, the evidence outside the Greek and Roman sources is unknown
and overlooked.

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Also, the custom of horse
burials spread essentially from Thuringia in the 5th century,
according to Berthold Schmidt, indicating a strong influence from
steppe nomadic people.
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Ravi > again a custom from the East

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 In fact, archaeological evidence shows that
Huns had followed these Germanic groups to Thuringia and otherwise
unrecorded battles have taken place between them, as early
Thuringian warrior graves have been found where the bones had still
three-winged Hunnic arrow heads imbedded. Like the Ostrogoths the
Thuringians fought later with the Huns at the battle of the
Catalaunian fields. In short, while the historically recorded
contact between Herminafred and Theoderic dates to the early 6th
century, archaeology can show that Thuringians and Goths had high
level contact already throughout most of the 5th century. The influx
of East Germanic groups into Thuringia in the years before 400AD,
which likely caused the creation of a Thuringian kingdom could
suggest that this contact may go back to this peoriod and a partly
shared origin.


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Ravi> you might also find that the contacts between the  people known
as the Goths and the Huns, Sakas, may not be all that un - common.
Look at the clan names !

Ravi



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