[gothic-l] Re: the Thuringians

[matt6219]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "ravichaudhary2000" <Ravi9 at h...> wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., "faltin2001" <dirk at s...> wrote:
> >
> Dirk writes > Hello all,
>
> I think that this relationship between Thuringians and Goths is
> rather interesting, and I think that there is more to it than is
> currently suggested in most of the literature.
>
>  The Thuringians were first mentioned in 400AD, and people of the
> Sintana de Mures/Chernyakhovsk culture (the same culture as the
> Goths) were likely a dominante force in the creation of the
> Thuringian kingdom (according to Berthold Schmidt).
>
>  Two
> archaeological groups, the Niemberger and Gross Badegaster groups
> have migrated to the heartland of Thuringia from the middle Danube
> in the last quarter of the 4th century, probably in flight from
the
> Huns. They also brought the practice of artificial skull
deformation
> to Thuringia, which has the highest share of all Germanic ethnic
> groups of this steppe nomadic custom.
>
> ******
> Ravi> " practice of artificial skull deformation " This is also a
> Hunnic, Saka, Massagetae custom. Looking eastward may not be all
that
> unprofitable.
>
> Due to a lack of knowledge, and an over reliance on Classical
> writers, the evidence outside the Greek and Roman sources is
unknown
> and overlooked.
>
> *****
>
> Also, the custom of horse
> burials spread essentially from Thuringia in the 5th century,
> according to Berthold Schmidt, indicating a strong influence from
> steppe nomadic people.
>  ****
>
> Ravi > again a custom from the East
>
> ****
>  In fact, archaeological evidence shows that
> Huns had followed these Germanic groups to Thuringia and otherwise
> unrecorded battles have taken place between them, as early
> Thuringian warrior graves have been found where the bones had
still
> three-winged Hunnic arrow heads imbedded. Like the Ostrogoths the
> Thuringians fought later with the Huns at the battle of the
> Catalaunian fields. In short, while the historically recorded
> contact between Herminafred and Theoderic dates to the early 6th
> century, archaeology can show that Thuringians and Goths had high
> level contact already throughout most of the 5th century. The
influx
> of East Germanic groups into Thuringia in the years before 400AD,
> which likely caused the creation of a Thuringian kingdom could
> suggest that this contact may go back to this peoriod and a partly
> shared origin.
>
>
> ******
> Ravi> you might also find that the contacts between the  people
known
> as the Goths and the Huns, Sakas, may not be all that un - common.
> Look at the clan names !

Hi Ravi,

Could you please give some examples of the clan names for each of
these ?

Thanks.

>
> Ravi


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