[gothic-l] Re: Gothic names

[Troels Brandt <trbrandt@post9.tele.dk>]

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "?????? ????????" <vegorov at i...> 
wrote:
> To Troels Brandt and not only.
> 
> Hi, Troels!
> 
> Sometime and somewhere on the Gothic List 
> I encountered your "back-derivation" *Hrothiwulf 
> for the Gothic language from Scandinavian Hrólf. 
> I did not find the original message and reproduce 
> the derivation on my memory. If I'm not wrong, 
> i.e. if you suggested *Hrothiwulf or something 
> close to this in fact, I'd like to inquire you 
> about a possible Scandinavian form for 
> the hypothetic Gothic name *Hrothrik 
> (*Hrotharik, *Hrothirik).
> 
> Of course, opinion of any other list members 
> would be of interest.
> 
> Vladimir


Hi Vladimir

I have only a very limited knowledge regarding names and linguistic 
problems - and I am just going to leave my computer for a week.

I do not think I have used the form Hrothiwulf at this list, but at 
my website a listmember found Hrothwulf mentioned as the name of Rolf 
Krake in Widsith - and Hrothulf in Beowulf - it was not a "back-
derivation". Just now I can recall the name in following other 
versions: The Roekstone: Radulf; Saxo: Rolvo; Ynglingasaga: Hrolfur; 
Jordanes: Roduulf; Procopius: Rodolphos. The uncle of Rolf - Roar - 
was Roe at Saxo and he was called Hrothgar in Widsith and Beowulf 
with the sons Hrothmund and Hredrik in Beowulf. At that time the name 
Röric (Roeric) was used by Saxo (HraerekR in the sagas) - possibly 
even covering Hredrik - but I am not sure if the name could be your 
Hrothric too. In the 9th century the Frankish sources mentioned a 
Horic in Denmark, but he was called Eric by Saxo.

I hope this can help you - but I think others have to help you with 
hypothetic forms of the names.

Troels



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