[gothic-l] Gothic names

?????? ???????? vegorov at IPIRAN.RU
Mon Jan 27 08:04:14 UTC 2003


Hi, Troels!

Thank you for the exhaustive anthology regarding Hrothwulf, 
even if my gratitude reaches you with a week delay.
 
Unfortunately, the series for Hrothrik was shorter. 
Except for Beowulf (I just reconstructed *Hrothrik from 
Beowulf’s HROTHmund + hredRIK) you mentioned Saxon’s 
Röric (Roeric) and compared this form with HraerekR 
of the sagas as “synonymous”. Identity of “Roeric” and 
“HraerekR” is very important for me. First, this allows me 
to extend identifying HraithmaraR of the Roekstone 
with Hroth-mara that is the Black sea as “Russian-sea” 
(naturally if the supposition, BTW prompted by you, on 
derivation of the ethnonym “Rus” from Gothic “hroth” is true). 
Second, this corroborates my assumption that Rurik of 
the Initial Russian Chronicle was neither “knyaz’ Rurik” 
nor “konung Roeric of Jutland/Frisland” but merely 
a personification of Russian kagans (chacans, hacons) 
i.e. Russian rulers, i.e. Hroth-riks. In particular, 
the Initial Chronicle personifies the same way the Russian 
"priestly chieftains", i.e. hölgi, as “knyaz’ Oleg”, 
and the Khazar kagans as “knyaz’ Kagan”. 

(I realize that all this sounds for you as a drivel 
and I have no intentions to impose on you my considerations, 
which are far enough from Gothic problems, but believe 
that I have some serious reasons for them, and I'm not 
wasting your time in vain.)

Vladimir



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