[gothic-l] Re: Fwd: New book on the Goths

[Ravi Chaudhary]

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- In JatHistory at yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chaudhary"
<ravichaudhary2000 at y...> wrote:
--- In JatHistory at yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chaudhary"
<ravichaudhary2000 at y...> wrote:
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>  Sunny Singh writes:

the origin from Scandinavia is alluded to by Jordanes. Interestingly
enough, Isidore of Seville, another author, does not mention this.
This is one of the reasons people are skeptical of Jordanes, but most
authorities will accept Jordanes as the best authority on Goths -
because he was a Goth himself and his history is almost seamlessly
put together. Even if we believe that all the Goths came from
Scandinavia (i.e. ignoring Jordanes claim of the Massagetae and
Getae), we still have some interesting Scandinavian accounts:

In The Geats of Beowulf, a Scandinavian chronicler wrote the
following about the Scythian origin of Scandinavians:

[C]ertain tribes...., when they had migrated from Scythia into this
region, called it Scythia, as if it were worthy of the name of their
first country [and] Moreover, those tribe... for some reason... were
called ...Getae....[and] were also called....Massagetae...after they
entered this region. Then when the name had been changed, those who
were formerly called...Getae...[were]....afterwards...
[called....Gothi....(Leake 1967: 93-94).

Wolfram says the following about a people called Gauts in Scandinavia
citing Procopius:

Procopius, who is the first to speak of the Gauts in Thule, knows
about their veneration of Ares. He writes about it as if he is
speaking of the Scythians, Thracians, Getae, or even of the Goths
themselves. A similarity between the Goths and the Gauts is probably
also expressed by the tribal name Gautigoths, which appears in
Cassidorus's Scandinavian list of peoples (Wolfram 1988: 21).

Further Wolfram writes, "The Greek geographer mentions the Gutae,
Goutai, as one of the seven peoples inhabiting the island of Scandi-
Scandinavia (Wolfram 1988: 37)"

Leake, J.A. The Geats of Beowulf. Madison, Milwaukee, and London.
University of Wisconsin Press: 1967.

Wolfram, H. History of the Goths. Berkeley. University of California
Press: 1988.

Regards,

PS- I think "learner" put a hyperlink to Mierow online on
Jatworld.com. Mierow is a respected translator of Jordanes
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