[gothic-l] Fwd: Goths in India

[Ravi Chaudhary]

--- In JatHistory at yahoogroups.com, "Sunny" <sunnytjatsingh at y...> 
wrote:
Hi Group, I posted this question on IndiaCulture.Net – views?

---I ran into an article in the Journal of Royal Asiatic Society of 
1912, by Sten Konow. As you know Konow is a well-respected scholar. 
The article is entitled "Goths in India" regarding
incriptions found 
at the Junnar - Inscription No. 5 and No. 33. in which they mention 
foreign named such as Irila and Cita, who both claim to be
"Gatas". 
Luders claim the "Gata" to be Sanskrit "Garta" –
does this 
mean "Jarta"? The inscriptions are dated by Konow around 150
B.C. 
roughly Bactrian Greek times. There is also the appellation Yavana-
Gata – Greco-Jats??? 

Junnar played a considerable role in the Western Ksatrapas and Konow 
claims that Irila is the Gothic name Erila, which is in 
English "Earl", Old Norse "Jarl", Old Saxon
"erl", which lead to the 
ethnic name "eruli" and "heruli" in Germanic
languages. Cita, Konow 
translates to "Hilda" or "Helda". He then writes,
"Both Irila and 
Cita are characterized as Gatas, and this latter word is the regular 
Indian form corresponding to Latin goti, the Goths (Konow 381)." 

He further claims the original form of the tribe as they knew 
themselves is "Gutans", which he relates to the Guttones who
were 
situated east of the Vistula in modern Poland. Sarmatians??? Does 
this not strengthen Ammianus Marcellinus comments about the Alani 
(Massagetae)? 

Does this Gata inscription at Junnar imply that the Getae were known 
as Gatas in their unpalatilized forms and came with the Bactrian 
Greeks or pre-existed them? Is Gata the same as the classical Indian 
literature Jata or Jarta, who along with the Madras of Sialkot were 
deemed barbarians? Or is it that somehow Scandinavian Goths found 
their way to India??? 

Sten Konow, "Goths in Ancien India." __Journal of the Royal Asiatic 
Society__ (1912), 379-385. 

Best Wishes,---
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