[gothic-l] Re: Map of the Germanic (Gothic?) place-names in Poland

[llama_nom]

RE: my earlier message,

1. goplo/gapel - My applogies! I've just checked again and I see
that I'd copied it down wrong and mistaken the /p/ for a thorn.
Still, /p/ is unusual in Germanic and often indicates a borrowed
word, so I'd be curious to know what this root means.

2. Gerhard Koebler gives two Latin forms for Gothic *Griutingos,
namely Greotingi and Greutungi.  If this is indeed the origin of the
Grudzadz, it would suggest that the tribal name is older than is
generally thought, since the usual explanation is that it
signifies "steppe-dwellers" (from *Griut 'stone, grit, gravel,
sand'), i.e. those Goths living on the north shore of the Black Sea,
as distinct from the other major Gothic tribe/confederation, the
Tervingi "forest-dwellers".  This theory is given in Gordon &
Taylor "An Introduction to Old Norse".

In Peter Heather's "The Goths", the graves of the Chernjakhov
culture are lined with stone, perhaps due to the lack of available
timber, while those of the more northerly Wielbark culture are lined
with wood.

Llama Nom


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "galadhorn" <galadhorn at i...> wrote:
> Here (http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/graphics/germania_low.jpg) I
have
> published a map made by me (using the maps: "Germanic place-names"
> from Z. Babik's "The Oldest Place-name Stratum in Today's Poland"
> (Cracow 2001) and "Archeological cultures in today's Poland in the
> Late Roman period - 3-4 C." from Kaczanowski, Kozlowski's "The
> Oldest History of the Land of Today's Poland") which shows the
> Germanic place-names in the teritory which in the antiquity was
> populated by the Goths and Gepids (Wielbark Culture).
>
> I would like to hear your opinion about this map. I have tried to
> reconstruct the Germanic forms of the names (according to Babik's
> book and to the newest Polish research). Babik ennumerates 23 Pre-
> Slavic Germanic place-names in Poland. I will add the Silesian
names
> soon.
>
> Reikhardus



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