[gothic-l] Re: Cagots (how pure were the Goths?)

[Francisc Czobor]

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Paul Bardunias" <Bardunias at a...>
wrote:
> > ... surprisingly enough we hear quite often of Goths with
> ethnically  mixed parentage.
> > Cheers
> > Dirk
>
>      The role of the Alans in relation to the Goths interests me.
We
> see them attatched to many of the migrating peoples.  The influence
> of earlier Sarmatic groups seems pretty clear on the Gothic
military.
> The sort of "overlord" model we see with the Huns, and later with
the
> varoius turkic groups and the Slavs, seems innapropriate, but
perhaps
> was the case for the Sarmatians and Goths at some point during the
> time between their arrival in eastern Europe and their subsequent
> migrations.
>
> Does anyone know of surviving Alannic texts? Other than the
evidence
> from East Aryan sounding names, many the wives and daughters of
> Goths, do we know what language the Alans spoke during the
migrations?
>
> If we ask how Germanic were the Goths, it may be important to know
> just how Alannic were the Alans.
>
> Paul

As far as I know, there are not surviving Alannic texts. The
information on their language relies mainly on their proper names.
But it is considered that the Ossetians are descendants of some Alans
who took refuge in Caucasus, thus Ossetian (an eastern Iranic
language) is a direct descendant of Alannic.
Regarding how Alannic remained those who migrated westwards, I have
read somewhere that the Alans in Spain and later in North Africa were
already largely Germanized.
Regarding the Goths, let's not forget that the language used by
Wulfila was almost purely Germanic, with Greek-Latin "technical"
loanwords (introduced most likely by Wulfila himself for biblic
terms) and a handful of presumably Slavic loanwords.

Francisc




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