[gothic-l] Re: what is the real objection against the Scandiavian origin of the Goths?
Ingemar Nordgren
ingemar at NORDGREN.SE
Tue Apr 5 15:17:29 UTC 2005
Hi Vendelkraka and Tore!
I agree with Tore and his reccomendation of literature is good. Still
I must point out that I have just such a theory that Vendelkraka asks
for. It is the main object with my book 'The Well Spring of the
Goths' that is available as both paperback and e-book on most net
book stores.
Best
Ingemar
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Tore Gannholm <tore at g...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I don't think there is any real objections against the Baltic area with
> Gotland in the centre having been very influential in the forming of
> the Goths.
> It is only that some scholars can't accept this. The Polish
> archaeologists who have excavated the Gothic areas in the last 30 years
> fully accept it.
>
> However, the problem is more complicated than most people think. The
> contacts during the millennia before zero between Gotland and some
> costal areas on the Swedish Baltic coast are extensive.
>
> Suggested reading Kaliffs book "Gothic connections"
> http://www.stavgard.com/Gotland/gothicconnectio_/gothic/default.htm
>
> Tore
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2005, at 9:56 PM, vendelkrka wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I have read a lot about the pros and cons about the Scandinavian
> > origin of the Goths, and I simply don't understand why some scholars
> > are so categorically against it.
> >
> > The way I see it, Poland is either the urheimat of the Germanic
> > languages, or the Gothic language arrived to the Vistula basin from
> > somewhere else. If we look at toponymics the names Götaland and
> > Gotland are already suggesting where to look for the origin. If we
> > combine with Jordanes account, it becomes even more convincing.
> > Moreover, the Gothic language had a great deal in common with North
> > Germanic and especially with Gutnish.
> >
> > Now, I'd be perfectly happy if there was a just as convincing theory
> > about a north German origin, but AFAIK, there is none.
> >
> > My impression is that the archaelogical objections are carefully
> > limited to the time period after 100 BC, ignoring the period 600 BC-
> > 300 BC when the climate of Scandinavia deteriorated.
> >
> > So what is the REAL problem with the Scandinavian origin?
> >
> >
> >
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