[gothic-l] Re: A new word, Gothic birds, etc.

[llama_nom]

Oscar,

Ni ibnaleik ak galeik! ("Not equal, but similar", to paraphrase the 
Skeireins...)  Ahaks "pigeon".  Anaks "suddenly".  But alright for 
alliteration, oh dear:

Nu skulum namnjan
namna fugle,
anuþ jah ahak,
all þatei fliugiþ,
hrabn hrukjandan,
hraiwadubon,
aran swaswe agatja,
airþabundanana hanan.
Gauros gansuns
goljand sik uhtwon.
Falka sa frija
ufar fulþon galaiþ,
unafswaggwiþs
sweþauh waijiþ.
Sparwan, sparwari
bi spedistin qiþa.


Fredrik,

Looks good to me.  I'd wondered about this word ages ago, before I 
had access to all these great dictionaries on the internet.  I can't 
remember what conclusion I reached, if any, but I didn't know about 
the Lithuanian cognate then--which I think is what suggests an i-
stem.  Makes a nice addition to our Gothic vocabulary!

The normal practice is to change -d to -þ at the end of a word or 
before -s, but sometimes the -d was written as such.  E.g. gods & 
goþs both occur, and by chance the former is actually more common.  
Apparently such spellings are most often found in certain specific 
sections of the Bible, e.g. Luke's gospel.

Oh and on the subject of reconstructing vocabulary, you might be 
interested in Post 1223, a very early message from Francisc which I 
came across recently.  Especially the ingenious lists of chemical 
and geographical terms.

The Cleasby & Vigfusson Icelandic-English Dictionary has some 
interesting comments on Gothic, including at least one probable loan-
word into Old Spanish, not listed in Koebler: *brano "heifer" (young 
female cow) = OIc. brana.


And finally, Francisc,

Good work on the Crossword!  I've added your guesses.  I hope it 
isn't making anyone too cross yet...


Llama Nom





--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, OSCAR HERRERA <duke.co at s...> wrote:
> waila,so waurd anaks(pigeons) samaleika ist...
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> Fredrik <gadrauhts at h...> wrote:
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> Hi all!
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> I don't do much so i think about words in gothic which i cannot 
find 
> in any dicctionary. Now it's the gothic word for duck. I have 
> searched for it in all dicctionaries I know about on internet but 
> without finding any so i took the freedom to recreate it instead.
> I wonder if you think this is ok or if not.
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> The word in swedish is 'and' (or in another form 'anka') and the 
> german is 'ente'. Acording to some books and dicctionaries (like 
> runeberg.org) this comes from *anuðiz.
> I guess this would have been 'anuds' in gothic, and an i-stem.
> The icelandic önd and the german ente is both feminine so 
therefore 
> I guess the gothic word also is feminine.
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> Comments please!
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> /Fredrik
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