[gothic-l] Re: A new word, Gothic birds, etc.
Fredrik
gadrauhts at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 12 14:55:09 UTC 2005
Llama Nom
I totaly agree with anuþs instead of anuds. And with d in plural and
some cases in singular. The similarity with 'anus' that some
mentioned ain't that shocking. If I remember right that word
means 'ring', and what is shocking about that, (except the obvious
reason)?
I read the post 1223 and found that very interesting. A lot of those
words are similar to neologisms I "made" myself.
Such words as potato and strawberry are the same as I thought of.
I don't think I've seen any word for nut anywhere som guess it would
be like hnutus or something like that, (don't know which gender). To
continue the same way of making the words of potato and stawberry
with the word aírþa- as first part, I'd like to add the word
aírþahnutus as peanut. (swedish: jordnöt = peanut).
About the word for president 1223 had faursitands, and i thought of
faurasitands. Is faur better than faura in this case?
I have a list of neologisms (and some, maybe 5 non neologisms) if
some one is interested. I guess some are not that well done, cos I
made em when I wasn't that good at this. But I hope you can tell me
corrections.
It's on a website that is:
http://www.geocities.com/gutiska/lex/neologism.html
/Fredrik
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at o...> wrote:
>
>
> Oscar,
>
> Ni ibnaleik ak galeik! ("Not equal, but similar", to paraphrase the
> Skeireins...) Ahaks "pigeon". Anaks "suddenly". But alright for
> alliteration, oh dear:
>
> Nu skulum namnjan
> namna fugle,
> anuþ jah ahak,
> all þatei fliugiþ,
> hrabn hrukjandan,
> hraiwadubon,
> aran swaswe agatja,
> airþabundanana hanan.
> Gauros gansuns
> goljand sik uhtwon.
> Falka sa frija
> ufar fulþon galaiþ,
> unafswaggwiþs
> sweþauh waijiþ.
> Sparwan, sparwari
> bi spedistin qiþa.
>
>
> Fredrik,
>
> Looks good to me. I'd wondered about this word ages ago, before I
> had access to all these great dictionaries on the internet. I
can't
> remember what conclusion I reached, if any, but I didn't know about
> the Lithuanian cognate then--which I think is what suggests an i-
> stem. Makes a nice addition to our Gothic vocabulary!
>
> The normal practice is to change -d to -þ at the end of a word or
> before -s, but sometimes the -d was written as such. E.g. gods &
> goþs both occur, and by chance the former is actually more common.
> Apparently such spellings are most often found in certain specific
> sections of the Bible, e.g. Luke's gospel.
>
> Oh and on the subject of reconstructing vocabulary, you might be
> interested in Post 1223, a very early message from Francisc which I
> came across recently. Especially the ingenious lists of chemical
> and geographical terms.
>
> The Cleasby & Vigfusson Icelandic-English Dictionary has some
> interesting comments on Gothic, including at least one probable
loan-
> word into Old Spanish, not listed in Koebler: *brano "heifer"
(young
> female cow) = OIc. brana.
>
>
> And finally, Francisc,
>
> Good work on the Crossword! I've added your guesses. I hope it
> isn't making anyone too cross yet...
>
>
> Llama Nom
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, OSCAR HERRERA <duke.co at s...> wrote:
> > waila,so waurd anaks(pigeons) samaleika ist...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Fredrik <gadrauhts at h...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I don't do much so i think about words in gothic which i cannot
> find
> > in any dicctionary. Now it's the gothic word for duck. I have
> > searched for it in all dicctionaries I know about on internet but
> > without finding any so i took the freedom to recreate it instead.
> > I wonder if you think this is ok or if not.
> >
> > The word in swedish is 'and' (or in another form 'anka') and the
> > german is 'ente'. Acording to some books and dicctionaries (like
> > runeberg.org) this comes from *anuðiz.
> > I guess this would have been 'anuds' in gothic, and an i-stem.
> > The icelandic önd and the german ente is both feminine so
> therefore
> > I guess the gothic word also is feminine.
> >
> > Comments please!
> >
> > /Fredrik
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