[gothic-l] Re: Neologisms Dictionary
Fredrik
gadrauhts at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Jan 21 14:10:58 UTC 2005
Thanx...
That seems to be a quite good idea, to collect neologisms from
different persons...
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at o...> wrote:
>
>
> Excellent stuff, Fredrik!
>
> I just looked at the dictionary. When I have time I'll extract the
> approximately 20 neologisms from my English-Gothic dictionary for
> you. If this is okay with Francisc, it would be good to include
his
> creations and make a really big combined effort. >
> Llama Nom
>
>
>
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Fredrik" <gadrauhts at h...> wrote:
> >
> > Llama Nom
> >
> > I totaly agree with anuþs instead of anuds. And with d in plural
> and
> > some cases in singular. The similarity with 'anus' that some
> > mentioned ain't that shocking. If I remember right that word
> > means 'ring', and what is shocking about that, (except the
obvious
> > reason)?
> >
> > I read the post 1223 and found that very interesting. A lot of
> those
> > words are similar to neologisms I "made" myself.
> > Such words as potato and strawberry are the same as I thought of.
> > I don't think I've seen any word for nut anywhere som guess it
> would
> > be like hnutus or something like that, (don't know which gender).
> To
> > continue the same way of making the words of potato and stawberry
> > with the word aírþa- as first part, I'd like to add the word
> > aírþahnutus as peanut. (swedish: jordnöt = peanut).
> >
> > About the word for president 1223 had faursitands, and i thought
> of
> > faurasitands. Is faur better than faura in this case?
> >
> > I have a list of neologisms (and some, maybe 5 non neologisms) if
> > some one is interested. I guess some are not that well done, cos
I
> > made em when I wasn't that good at this. But I hope you can tell
> me
> > corrections.
> > It's on a website that is:
> > http://www.geocities.com/gutiska/lex/neologism.html
> >
> >
> >
> > /Fredrik
> >
> >
> > --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at o...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Oscar,
> > >
> > > Ni ibnaleik ak galeik! ("Not equal, but similar", to paraphrase
> the
> > > Skeireins...) Ahaks "pigeon". Anaks "suddenly". But alright
> for
> > > alliteration, oh dear:
> > >
> > > Nu skulum namnjan
> > > namna fugle,
> > > anuþ jah ahak,
> > > all þatei fliugiþ,
> > > hrabn hrukjandan,
> > > hraiwadubon,
> > > aran swaswe agatja,
> > > airþabundanana hanan.
> > > Gauros gansuns
> > > goljand sik uhtwon.
> > > Falka sa frija
> > > ufar fulþon galaiþ,
> > > unafswaggwiþs
> > > sweþauh waijiþ.
> > > Sparwan, sparwari
> > > bi spedistin qiþa.
> > >
> > >
> > > Fredrik,
> > >
> > > Looks good to me. I'd wondered about this word ages ago,
before
> I
> > > had access to all these great dictionaries on the internet. I
> > can't
> > > remember what conclusion I reached, if any, but I didn't know
> about
> > > the Lithuanian cognate then--which I think is what suggests an
i-
> > > stem. Makes a nice addition to our Gothic vocabulary!
> > >
> > > The normal practice is to change -d to -þ at the end of a word
> or
> > > before -s, but sometimes the -d was written as such. E.g. gods
> &
> > > goþs both occur, and by chance the former is actually more
> common.
> > > Apparently such spellings are most often found in certain
> specific
> > > sections of the Bible, e.g. Luke's gospel.
> > >
> > > Oh and on the subject of reconstructing vocabulary, you might
be
> > > interested in Post 1223, a very early message from Francisc
> which I
> > > came across recently. Especially the ingenious lists of
> chemical
> > > and geographical terms.
> > >
> > > The Cleasby & Vigfusson Icelandic-English Dictionary has some
> > > interesting comments on Gothic, including at least one probable
> > loan-
> > > word into Old Spanish, not listed in Koebler: *brano "heifer"
> > (young
> > > female cow) = OIc. brana.
> > >
> > >
> > > And finally, Francisc,
> > >
> > > Good work on the Crossword! I've added your guesses. I hope
it
> > > isn't making anyone too cross yet...
> > >
> > >
> > > Llama Nom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, OSCAR HERRERA <duke.co at s...>
> wrote:
> > > > waila,so waurd anaks(pigeons) samaleika ist...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Fredrik <gadrauhts at h...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all!
> > > >
> > > > I don't do much so i think about words in gothic which i
> cannot
> > > find
> > > > in any dicctionary. Now it's the gothic word for duck. I have
> > > > searched for it in all dicctionaries I know about on internet
> but
> > > > without finding any so i took the freedom to recreate it
> instead.
> > > > I wonder if you think this is ok or if not.
> > > >
> > > > The word in swedish is 'and' (or in another form 'anka') and
> the
> > > > german is 'ente'. Acording to some books and dicctionaries
> (like
> > > > runeberg.org) this comes from *anuðiz.
> > > > I guess this would have been 'anuds' in gothic, and an i-stem.
> > > > The icelandic önd and the german ente is both feminine so
> > > therefore
> > > > I guess the gothic word also is feminine.
> > > >
> > > > Comments please!
> > > >
> > > > /Fredrik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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