*gutiska vs.*gutisko
llama_nom
600cell at OE.ECLIPSE.CO.UK
Tue Jan 3 02:19:34 UTC 2006
> > The oldest form that was used was indeed Gutones (Plinius:
Gudones)
> and when talking of later gutniska (gotländska) it seems rather
> fitting also for general Gothic like the Ic. gotneska. I think
> 'gutiska' is less convincing and besides in normal Swedish it is
> called 'gotiska' nowadays!
>
> Without linguistic merits!
> Ingemar
>
Hails, Iggwimer!
Ah, so I see [ http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotiska ]. Thanks for
the correction! Was 'gutiska' ever used of "Gothic" in Swedish in
the past, or is that just my misunderstanding? Are there any
references to the Goths in Old Swedish, besides the Rök stone?
I should clarify that by "uncontracted plural" I meant gen. *gutane,
dat. *gutanam. The alternative would be a noun with contracted
forms here: *gutne, *gutnam (cf. Go. auhsne, abne, abnam).
Llama Nom
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Ingemar Nordgren" <ingemar at n...>
wrote:
>
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at o...> wrote:
>
> > Supposing the Goths' name for their own language was a feminine
on-
> > stem noun though, can you think of any way of chosing between:
> > *gutisko (Swedish 'gutiska' "Gothic"), or *gutanisko, or
*gutnisko
> > (Icelandic 'gotneska' "Gothic",
Swedish 'gutniska' "Gotlandish")? I
> > don't know how much we can read into the Latin form 'gothones',
> > whether this shows that *guta had an uncontracted plural
*gutans, or
> > if it's just the Latin ending -ones added to the root 'goth'.
But
> > if the plural was *gutans, maybe *gutanisko is preferable. Does
> > continental West Germanic offer any clues here?
> >
> > Llama Nom
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