*gutiska vs.*gutisko

[Tore Gannholm]

Hi,
This is the old confusion. Never mix Gotland with Sweden. It was two  
different countries until Sweden incorporated Gotland in 1679.
The languages are different.
The Gotlandic words are Guta lagh, Gutland, gutniscr mathr, ogutnjscr  
mathr,

What they call it in Sweden I don't know. Gothic is the latin word  
which the Germans adopted and spread to the Swedish language in the  
Middle Ages.

Tore




On Jan 3, 2006, at 3:19 AM, llama_nom wrote:

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>>> The oldest form that was used was indeed Gutones (Plinius:
> Gudones)
>> and  when talking of later gutniska (gotländska) it seems rather
>> fitting also for general Gothic like the Ic. gotneska. I think
>> 'gutiska' is less convincing and besides in normal Swedish it is
>> called 'gotiska' nowadays!
>>
>> Without linguistic merits!
>> Ingemar
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> Hails, Iggwimer!
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> Ah, so I see [ http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotiska ].  Thanks for
> the correction!  Was 'gutiska' ever used of "Gothic" in Swedish in
> the past, or is that just my misunderstanding?  Are there any
> references to the Goths in Old Swedish, besides the Rök stone?
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> I should clarify that by "uncontracted plural" I meant gen. *gutane,
> dat. *gutanam.  The alternative would be a noun with contracted
> forms here: *gutne, *gutnam (cf. Go. auhsne, abne, abnam).
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> Llama Nom
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> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Ingemar Nordgren" <ingemar at n...>
> wrote:
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>> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "llama_nom" <600cell at o...> wrote:
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>>> Supposing the Goths' name for their own language was a feminine
> on-
>>> stem noun though, can you think of any way of chosing between:
>>> *gutisko (Swedish 'gutiska' "Gothic"), or *gutanisko, or
> *gutnisko
>>> (Icelandic 'gotneska' "Gothic",
> Swedish 'gutniska' "Gotlandish")?  I
>>> don't know how much we can read into the Latin form 'gothones',
>>> whether this shows that *guta had an uncontracted plural
> *gutans, or
>>> if it's just the Latin ending -ones added to the root 'goth'.
> But
>>> if the plural was *gutans, maybe *gutanisko is preferable.  Does
>>> continental West Germanic offer any clues here?
>>>
>>> Llama Nom
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