Boz = Bus < *Baus?

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Hi, Tore!

 

What sources do you mean? What are the particular evidences? It is really very interesting.

In connection with the 12th c., I can suggest the Russian princedom Tmutarakan' (Greek Tamatarcha) on the eastern coast of Kerch strait between the Black and Azov seas (Greek Bosporos Kymmericos). The start date for that princedom is unknown. The commonly accepted time point is 970 AD when the Russian prince (knyaz') Svyatoslav (Sphendostlabos in Greek documents) totally destroyed the Khazar kingdom (kaganate) and conquered almost all northern Caucasus. Last notices about that princedom relate to the XIII c. In the middle XII c., a very active and enterprising prince Oleg (with the nickname Gorislavich) ruled in Tmutarakan'. With his residence in Tmutarakan', he bereaved a half of Russian territory of Yaroslav the Wise (the son and heir of Vladimir the Baptizer). Of course, the official Russian history assumes all Russian rulers always speaking Russian as a Slavic language, but the evidence of Constantine VI (Porphyrogenete) allows us to assume them speaking Germanic (see "De administratio imperio", chapter 9) though in the middle X c., i.e. two centuries earlier.

The question is very interesting for me. I developed recently a hypothesis that (of course, in brief) Tamatarcha was occupied by the Goths and Heruls in the early IV c. and became a "piratical base" for their sensational raids against Pitius and then Greece and Aegean islands. Later, having returned to southern Sweden, the Black Sea (i.e. former Gothic) pirates provoked there the so-called Vendel culture of the VI c. Fantastic? Maybe. But not quite impossible.

 

Vladimir

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com [mailto:gothic-l at yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tore Gannholm
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:25 PM
To: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [gothic-l] Re: Boz = Bus < *Baus?



Hi,
This is very interesting. We know from Gotlandic sorces that the 
Gotlanders in the 12th century met people at the Black Sea speaking 
their language. Is there anything more written about it?

Tore

On Jul 15, 2006, at 1:43 PM, ualarauans wrote:

> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroup <mailto:gothic-l%40yahoogroups.com> s.com, Tore Gannholm <tore at ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > From which century is the source you refer to?
> >
> > Tore
> >
>
> From the 11th, if I don't mistake
>
> Ualarauans
>
>
> 

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