Translation for Gk. *foberos

ualarauans ualarauans at YAHOO.COM
Thu Jul 27 08:45:49 UTC 2006


Hailai jut mithsokjandans niujawaurdje!

There are attested compounds sigis-laun and thruts-fill which could 
be relevant here. If that is the general way how this kind of stems 
behaved being the first element, then *agis-leiks looks quite normal.

AFAIK Greek FOBEROS meant both "terrible" and "frightened", like 
NE "fearful" I guess. Gerhard Koebler's Griechisch-Gotisches 
Woerterbuch has FOBERIZEIN = ogjan (Neh. 6:19), so ogjands could 
probably be active FOBEROS (or, more precisely, FOBERIZOUS?, "one 
who actually frightens/inspires fear") and ogands = passive FOBEROS 
(FOBERIZOMENOS, "one being frightened, timid"). Not sure I'm alright 
with Greek here...

I recalled OE gasric from the runic inscription on Franks Gasket. 
Could we reconstruct a noun Go. *gaisareiks M. cons. (?) 
for "monster", "someone terrible" or "terribly looking" etc? Not to 
confuse with *Gaizareiks, the famous leader of the Vandals and 
founder of their North African homeland. Maybe he was teased in this 
way (i.e. by being called *gaisareiks, and I heard he was lame and 
not particularly fair-looking), but hardly in his presence :)

Ualarauans

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Arthur Jones <arthurobin2002 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Hails thiudans!
>    
>   Re: Your search for a Gothic expression close enough to Gk. 
foberos:
>    
>   Jah ogs; ogs mikils. Can we try a gerundive (being 
waurdsokjandans ourselves)?
>    
>   What about, from ogs- root, a fear-instilling "ogjands" for 
starters?
>    
>   Or if the wraith is particularly shiver-inducing, how 
about "usgaisjands"?
>    
>   Or even the most universally surviving Germanic word I know --
no, not the vulgarities, either-- "grimms". 
>    
>   Arthur
>    
>   arthur.jones at ...
>    
> 
> thiudans <thiudans at ...> wrote:
>           I have need of a translation for Gk. foberos "fearsome", 
I've thought
> of constructing something like *agis-leik-s, cf. Ic. ógurlegur. Is
> anyone familiar with the way in which weak nouns of this type 
(ending
> in -is -iz-) would form compounds? Also other suggestions are 
welcome.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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