Poety to translate?
Guenther Ramm
ualarauans at YAHOO.COM
Fri Mar 24 21:36:36 UTC 2006
Hails!
I dont insist on the scribal error hypothesis, but the graphical likeness of the Gothic letter for [th] and the Greek letter for [f] could speak in its favor. We know that some earlier manuscripts have the S-letter close to the Greek one while the later manuscripts use the Latin S. Could there be a similar situation with the F? I mean some early variants of Gothic alphabet could have a Greek-like F and later when these were being rewritten by Ostrogothic scribes in Italy all the confusions were made. That this hypothetical proto-F would look almost like TH is no objection compare the letters for U and P. Due to such a confusion of U and P by Jordanes we have Gapt instead of *Gaut in Getica 79.
Then the question is why this confusion affected only initial fl- ?
Ualarauans
John Stewart <john.stewart at iued.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: Hails Thiudans!
I haven't read Koebler, but this *THl- cluster has always seemed awkward to
me. Does he suggest that it could be a scribal error? Where maybe Wulfila
wrote the Gothic and when it was copied, someone misread it as <Þ> (TH-)?
(John S.)
> on. Still I must not forget to remind us of the fact that, whatever
> its true etymology, Wulfila wrote the word for fly, flight, capable of
> flight, etc. with a thl- initial cluster, therefore in the poem, if we
> take the insect as related to the root, perhaps it should be
> *THl(i)ugo (< Gmc. *fl[e]ugon or *thl- "Fly or Moth"; or, Go. *THlugi
> < ? *flugjan "flying insect" [Orel])? It is unfortunate we cannot know
> precisely how this variation occured. Orel corrects to fl-, Koebler
> seems to suggest both possibilities (except for THlahsjan ?).
>
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