Visigothic identity of Spain

[Ingemar Nordgren]

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Wolfgang Franz <wolfgang.franz at ...>
wrote:
>
> Hails.
> 
> What is written here about Arianism is wrong. The Arians saw Jesus
Christ as 
> the son of God, God by himself. Created before the creation through
him the 
> whole creation is created. Nicaia and Constantinople found that
Christ is not 
> created but procreated as creation can not save itself. For Nikaia
God Son 
> and God Father are of "equal substance", for Arius of "similiar
substance". 
> What you write about Nicaia and Constantinople is in fact more or
less the 
> Arian way of thinking.  

No Wolfgang, this is only a later developement. Arius and his folks
originally meant Jesus was a human but was divined because of a
righteous behaviour like a bodisattva. Christ was but an incarnation
of God in the shape of Jesus. Jesus was however in an unexplicible way
fathered by God through Mary.

Best
Ingemar





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