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[ualarauans]

Hi, Michael

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Michael Erwin <merwin at ...> wrote:
>
> In my understanding, statecraft is only part of politics. A polis
> might be a gawi; the people are the thiuda; the government is
> probably the reik-something; reikinassus looks okay there.

Couldn't gawi mean a particular province or whatever administrative 
district, such as a state of the U.S.A., a department of France, a 
bundesland of Germany, a wojwodstwo of Poland etc. For example, 
Waurtislawi ist haubidabaurgs this Siliggiskins gaujis "Wroclaw is 
the capital city of the Silesian province"?

Didn't thiuda mean also a territory inhabited by a people? 
Gutthiuda – a Gothic country, not only a Gothic people, right?

> A ruler is, of course, reiks (in monarchies this would mainly 
denote
> the monarch; in other places, this could easily denote any 
politician
> or lobbyist, while connoting either ambition or corruption); an
> advisor is, in Wright, ragineis (including P.M., cabinet, and legal
> counsel?); an official is, of course, andbahts (excepting cabinet
> officials). Of course we still need words to distinguish cabinet 
from
> legislature from courts.

A "minister" could probably be ragineis, for raginon means both "to 
advice" and "to govern", especially "to govern a province" (cf. Luc. 
2:2 wisandin kindina Swriais = raginondin Saurim). Hence could be 
derived "to manage a government department". Then kindins is 
a "governor". "Prime minister" - sa fruma ragineis or *raginafaths 
M.-i (gen. –fadis)?

> A popular leader might be thiudans, especially if he is shaping
> politics and he is not a politician, e.g. MLK. But thiudans might
> mean something else, and something else might mean this. Any other
> suggestions?

A "president" of a republic could probably be the attested 
faurstasseis M.-ja or a calqued *faursitands M.-nd, as distinguished 
from "monarch" (thiudans) or "dictator" (*ainareiks?). "Head of a 
state" irrespective of the government form - *reikiwaldands M.-nd 
(after garda-waldands)?

> We might also want words for degrees of federation or alliance.

I suggested *lithureiki for "federative republic". Maybe, trausti 
could be used for "alliance" or "federation"? *Thiudatrausti – "an 
alliance of several ethnic territories (thiudos)"?

> >> 3) Relation, (german verhältniss).
> >> E.g. In the sentence: They have destroyed all the patriarchal 
and
> >> idyllic relations.
> >
> > *gaha:hi N.-ja? Though it's more to German Zusammenhang (cf. the
> > attested adverb gahahjo which Streitberg translates as "im
> > Zusammenhang". Or maybe one could use gawiss
> > F.-i "Verbindung", "Band" (ibidem) in an abstract sense.
> > "Gaterun allos audagos gawissins thozei thai airizans anafulhun".
> 
> I have no idea what the example sentence means.

I tried to translate "idyllic" with audags and "patriarchal" with a 
description lit. "[relations] which those before have handed down to 
us". Maybe it would be better to say thozei ATTANS anafulhun, to 
stress they were "PATRI-archal". But I have no idea what the context 
is.

Another place I'd like to correct is the example with "nimbus". It 
should have been: gasatei jah jainamma wipja tho liuhadeinon, unte 
weiha ist. Weiha is of course a weak noun masculine here.

Ualarauans






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