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llama_nom 600cell at OE.ECLIPSE.CO.UK
Tue Apr 17 15:06:51 UTC 2007



Good devil's advocatry there!

> > hugi-sahts, fi.  idea.
> > qiu-sahts, fi.  film, movie.
> 
> What is this –sahts intended to mean?

I was thinking of 'frisahts' "image, example" (from 'sakan'), hence a
living picture -- or does that point rather to "animation"...?;
'insahts' "declaration", 'gasahts' "rebuke".  My idea was to extend
that to other visual and intellectual entities.

> > tungla-fasteis, mja.  astronomer.
> > tungla-leisei, fin.  astronomy.
> 
> And what's about "astrology"?

dwaliþa? ;-)  Or something along the lines of: tungla-praufetja,
na.pl. / tungla-praufetjans, man.pl.?  Re. the declension, see:
http://www.wulfila.be/lib/streitberg/1910/HTML/B105.html  What old
Germanic words for divination can we think of?  *spaha, fo = ON spá. 
OE has wítigdóm (cf. OE wít(e)ga "prophet, sooth-sayer", ON vitki
"wizard" = Go. *weitaga).  Maybe best stick to the attested
'praufetja' "prophesy".

> The Streitberg/Braune system seems to me the best but this is 
> because I've got accustomed to it. It's worth asking what are the 
> most popular textbooks for studying Gothic and how they organize 
> words in their glossaries. Maybe we should arrange an on-line 
> questionnaire for list-members. The results would be interesting in 
> many other respects too I'm sure.

Let's start making a list of questions for that.  I'd be happy to go
with the Streitberg/Braune method, but I'm still inclined to use the
'ng' spelling, and inconsistently leave 'gk' in place.  It's not such
a problem when there are just 3000-5000 words in use, but once we
start adding neologisms and names, the double value of 'gg' could get
confusing.  If there was a simple way of altering the 'gg' to signify
/g:/ that would be fine too.  The same goes for 'ái' and 'aí' --
they're easy to predict at the moment, but a lot of loanwords could
shake that up.  I just suggested changing /ng/ as there is already an
attested alternative in the manuscripts, whereas there isn't for /g:/.
 As you'll have gathered, I see no reason to suppose that these sounds
had merged, as Marchand suggested; and the fact that the spelling 'ng'
is never found for historical /g:/ speaks against that idea.

> > faihu-fasteis, mja.  economist.
> > faihu-leisei, fin.  finance, economics.
> 
> Aha, now I know how you form nomina agentis! But, remembering our 
> old discussion where you were defending "cattle" meaning of faihu, 
> aren't the suggested words supposed to mean also "farmer" 
> and "cattle-breeding science" respectfully?

Ack, hoist with my own petard!  Those cows have come home to haunt me...

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