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llama_nom
600cell at OE.ECLIPSE.CO.UK
Tue Apr 17 15:06:51 UTC 2007
Good devil's advocatry there!
> > hugi-sahts, fi. idea.
> > qiu-sahts, fi. film, movie.
>
> What is this sahts intended to mean?
I was thinking of 'frisahts' "image, example" (from 'sakan'), hence a
living picture -- or does that point rather to "animation"...?;
'insahts' "declaration", 'gasahts' "rebuke". My idea was to extend
that to other visual and intellectual entities.
> > tungla-fasteis, mja. astronomer.
> > tungla-leisei, fin. astronomy.
>
> And what's about "astrology"?
dwaliþa? ;-) Or something along the lines of: tungla-praufetja,
na.pl. / tungla-praufetjans, man.pl.? Re. the declension, see:
http://www.wulfila.be/lib/streitberg/1910/HTML/B105.html What old
Germanic words for divination can we think of? *spaha, fo = ON spá.
OE has wítigdóm (cf. OE wít(e)ga "prophet, sooth-sayer", ON vitki
"wizard" = Go. *weitaga). Maybe best stick to the attested
'praufetja' "prophesy".
> The Streitberg/Braune system seems to me the best but this is
> because I've got accustomed to it. It's worth asking what are the
> most popular textbooks for studying Gothic and how they organize
> words in their glossaries. Maybe we should arrange an on-line
> questionnaire for list-members. The results would be interesting in
> many other respects too I'm sure.
Let's start making a list of questions for that. I'd be happy to go
with the Streitberg/Braune method, but I'm still inclined to use the
'ng' spelling, and inconsistently leave 'gk' in place. It's not such
a problem when there are just 3000-5000 words in use, but once we
start adding neologisms and names, the double value of 'gg' could get
confusing. If there was a simple way of altering the 'gg' to signify
/g:/ that would be fine too. The same goes for 'ái' and 'aí' --
they're easy to predict at the moment, but a lot of loanwords could
shake that up. I just suggested changing /ng/ as there is already an
attested alternative in the manuscripts, whereas there isn't for /g:/.
As you'll have gathered, I see no reason to suppose that these sounds
had merged, as Marchand suggested; and the fact that the spelling 'ng'
is never found for historical /g:/ speaks against that idea.
> > faihu-fasteis, mja. economist.
> > faihu-leisei, fin. finance, economics.
>
> Aha, now I know how you form nomina agentis! But, remembering our
> old discussion where you were defending "cattle" meaning of faihu,
> aren't the suggested words supposed to mean also "farmer"
> and "cattle-breeding science" respectfully?
Ack, hoist with my own petard! Those cows have come home to haunt me...
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