Toledo

Fredrik gadrauhts at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Jul 11 12:58:24 UTC 2007


How possible is it that the germanic words in spanish (and italian) 
is from gothic and not borrowed from another earlier germanic 
language?

is there a coincidence that a word as 'escanciar' mostly appears in a 
few dialects in spanish (if i remember correct it is in northern 
close to asturian). And is this word a gothic loan or maybe not?

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "raul catalan ramos" 
<shaitani1348 at ...> wrote:
>
> I have "argued" about this point with my friends several times.From 
my point 
> of view, according to the number of words inherited from east 
germanic, it 
> is very unlikely the employ of gothic by goths in Hispania, 
becasuse most of 
> germanic words in nowadays spanish is limited to only a handful 
examples (as 
>   "guerra" (written "Werra"  in the ancient sources , 
meaning "war") or 
> "bosque" meaning "forest", both of them nearby the same as the 
italian words 
> for war, "guerra", and   forest,"bosco"). On the other hand, the 
lack of 
> written sources in gothic can't be used to deny the employ of 
gothic among 
> goths in hispania, because the written sources from this period are 
closely 
> related to the highest elites of society, whose focus was the roman 
(and  
> then bizantine) culture and the employ of Latin. I agree with the 
idea that 
> gothic vanished in a few generations, but I think that it must 
endured for 
> some time in rural areas far from the cities.
> 
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