Shulanda

[Ingemar Nordgren]

Hi Authari!

I am glad you could  use my suggestion. Thank you for your very
thorough report about the last results  in the Crimea!

My very best wishes!
Ingemar


--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "authari" <authari at ...> wrote:
>
> Dear Ingemar
> Thank you for information.
> Just some notices. Your etimolomology fits situation very well.
> Shulanda is on a plateau  near mountain pass through rock perimeter.
> This pass id blocked by fortress wall of rubble stone. There is also a
> concentration of stone constructions with Late Roman pottery. Shulanda
> is only 2-3 kilometers from Eski-Kermen â€" Byzantine fortress built in
> 6-7 cc.  Some kilometers to the West from Shulanda excavated
> cemeteries Saharnaja Golovka, Inkerman and Chornaja rechka with
> cremations and other Germanic features.
> Some notices
> It was surprising for me to read about Germanic origin of Alusta
> toponim because it has very good greek explanation. Aluston and
> Gorzubitae were build by Justinian the Great and are inside an area of
> distribution of cemeteries  Type Suuk-su (with some Germanic features).
> As for the Uskut it is outside Gothic area (most eastern cemetery of
> this type at South Coast partly excavated by Lysenko and Teslenko two
> years ago at Semidvorje â€" several kilometers to the east from
> Alushta). Kurtiev is never mentioned in works of any serious
> scientist; he is not researcher but story writer. Superanskaya’s 
> collection of toponims (it is not a map, no map provided) is of almost

> no value â€" all of it taken from popular books and turistic maps, even
> I know more. Crimean toponimics is not lost â€" almost all of it were
> collected by recently dead Bel’ansky. He put several thousands  of it
> on the map (I have a copy, sorry it is still unpublished).
> Tatarian onomastics are extremely surprising mixture. Now among most
> popular names is Marlen (Marx-Lenin), Lemara (Lenin-Marx) and many of
>  turcic, Arabian, Slavic, Caucasian, Persian, Cenral Asian origin.
> Local bureau of passport registration gone crazy when they had
> repatriated. Some of it has no uniform pronunciation (several
> variants). It was said about Gafrid.
> 
> As for the archeological evidences of Crimean goths. There are near
> one hundred cemeteries of 6-9 cc AD (some of it started even in late
> 4th century) known as catacomb cemetries of type Suuk-su and disposed
> in the South coast and SW Crimea (to the west from Alma river).
> Let you turn to publications of  A.I. Ajbabin. (he had excavated
> Luchistoje, Eski-kermen, Bakla and some more sites and issued some
> pornographies and plenty of articles.
> More than that two cemetries with cremations and weapons of 4-5 cc AD
> (Ay-Todor near Oreanda and Chatyr-Dag near Alushta) are Germanic but
> not Gothic (may be herulian). Near Partenites (between Yalta and
> Alushta) they had excavated Late Roman sanctuary Aligora with bif
> fireplace, crashed glass vessel, terra sigilata and hand made pottery
> dated by coins of Gallian usurpers (Tetric etc). It was possible
> German mercenaries or pirates.
> Ay-Todor excavated and published in several articles of Orlov in 80-ies.
> Chatyr-Dag are receintly published as a book
> Several cemeteries with cremations are also excavated or found around
> Chersones (now all of it are robbed).
> Germans at Kerch peninsula is a separate tale; now I don’t want
touch it.
> 
> Mangup.
> Archeological expedition of Tavrian National univ. (Simferopol)
> excavates this site for decades. Very few material is published.
> Dissertation of prof. Alexander Gertsen about fortifications system
> (Russian lang.) issued in 1990 now is accessible via internet- if
> anybody need I will find the link Last years we get material which
> proved that fortress was built not at the time of Justinian but
> earlier â€"V century. Settlement at Mangup plateau with Late Roman
> material existed even in the and of IV c AD. Material from Lagernaya
> Balka gives except pottery, amphorae (mostly imported) terra sigilata,
> coins and animal bones also some fibulae of pure Chernjahov type.
> There are several catacomb cemetries of 4-9 cc at the outskirts of
> Mangup. I had excavated some. Two months ago finished works of
> Sidorenko at cemetery of 6-8 cc near Khodzha-sala.
> Most important cemetery is Almalyk â€" it gives rich comlices  of late 4
> â€" late 8 cc AD. Ther are some graves with luxury finds of type
> Untersiebenbrunn. It even not only similar â€" some is identical. Here
> also fount one cremation grave, two kurgans and horse graves (similar
> to Djurso cemetery near Anapa â€" which belonged as they think to
> tetraxites). We found there also some swords (2 short and 2 spatha),
> many arrowheads of hunnic type and plates of bone for bows.
> One spath with silber buckles was fount in a separate pit inside
> chamber grave â€" it was hidden.
> Two years I have found in a grave of early 6 c. an umbo (shield-boss)
> of type very close to Horula.   Seems like swords   was not rare here
> â€" there are many pieces of it found with a flintstones in sets for
> ignition, but it was not common to put it inside grave. This fact is
> surprised a bit because this population was alano-gothic mixture and
> for alans swords in graves are common. 
> Materials of near 100 graves of Almalyk and some nearest cemetries of
> this type is now processed by Dr. Magdalena Manczynska (Lodz) and this
> year I hope  will be published as a catalogue in Germany. 
> RGZM taken  samples of 30 skeletons of DNA from Almalyk â€" soon we will
> know results 
> I have many publications in PDF (like Chatyr-Dag, Sacharnaya Golovka
> (Sovkhoz 10) etc.
> If  anybody need it I can put it on rapidshare. Sorry it is Russian
> language.
> 
> The best book about Goths in Ukraine and Crimea is MB Schukin “Gotskij
> Put’” â€" “Gothish way” â€" in it you can find almost all
bibliography.
> http://rapidshare.com/files/85431329/Shukin_Gotish_way.pdf.html
> 
> I have made a website about Mangup excavations   
> It has English version. http://mangexp.narod.ru/index.html
> 
> 
> Some photos from Almalyk
> Glass bowl from chamber grave 2 (5th century)- 3D reconstruction
> http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9185/glassmiswh1.jpg
> 
> Artificially deformed scull from Chamber grave 191 (early 6 cent)
> http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/5479/scull1lm3.jpg
> 
> Inside a chamber grave
> http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1172/ksjuqj4.jpg
> 
> Gold anthropomorphic plates (V c AD)
> http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8719/plaquesqw4.jpg
> 
> Best wishes
> Serge
>


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