Naming practices

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And do remember that Jordanes was prejudiced. I think the course of history has proved his assessment of the primacy of the Amalung wrong.

Randulfs

--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Schwarcz" <andreas.schwarcz at ...> wrote:
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> Dear Tom,
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> Alaric is a name, not a title, and Balthus is the (royal or noble) family he
> was from (the Latin source calls him "genere Baltha", "from the family of
> the Balthi", and Jordanes writes that this family is only second in nobility
> to the family of the Amali, the family of Theoderic the Great). The name
> Balthus may also indicate some ethnic connection of the family. Other
> members of this family may have been Ariaric, Aoric, Athanaric and Alaviv,
> who were leaders of the Tervingi before Alaric. So to call him Alaric the
> Bold or Bold Alaric would both be wrong.
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> All the best,
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>              Andreas Schwarcz
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> Von: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com [mailto:gothic-l at yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag
> von Thomas
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Dezember 2010 16:01
> An: gothic-l at yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [gothic-l] Naming practices
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> Greetings.
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> I am working on a novel about Alaric. In my research, I read in one place
> that Alaric may not have been his name, but that Alaric was a distortion by
> contemporary writers of his title, Ala Reiks (prince of princes).
> 
> I suspect that this is not true because there were many Gothic names which
> included the suffix ric, Athanaric for instance.
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> I have also read that he had an appellation, the bold (balthi).
> To complicate that, I read that Balthi was the title of a sub-tribe of the
> Tervingi.
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> My goal in writing is to not only entertain, but to educate.
> So, I have a question. If Balthi were an appellation to Alaric's name, would
> it have been:
> Alaric the Bold (Like Eric the Red)
> or
> Bold Alaric (like Red Eric)
> 
> Thank you guys very much.
> I have asked questions here before and got very helpful responses. You guys
> are great.
> 
> Tom
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