Introduction and King Wamba

[Andreas Schwarcz]

Wamba was indeed the first king of the Visigoths for 
whom the ceremony of unction is expressedly 
attested, but alreeady the canones of the IVth 
council of Toledo in 633 imply that the kings were 
unctioned as part of their accession to the throne 
after the example of king David.

All the best,
             Andreas

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ao.Univ.Prof.Dr.Andreas Schwarcz
Institut für österreichische  Geschichtsforschung
Universität Wien
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On 12 Feb 2012 at 12:29, Ingemar Nordgren wrote:

> 
>  
> There are several legends about Wamba and it is definitely not the usual 
> way a Visigothic king was appointed. Some details even seem to be part 
> of the trubadour tradition from Provence which later continues in the 
> stories of King Arthur like the hunt of the hind. Also in the Didriks 
> saga the same story of the hunt is recognizeable and it has as well 
> roots in the Bysantine tradition. I would pay no heed to that story.This 
> was as well late in the Visigothic era and the kings now, since Reccared 
> had claimed to be king of Gods grace, were Catholic and not Arian and 
> the church had a strong position with the very conservative Catholic 
> Councils in Toledo persecuting both Arians and Jews. A saintly king 
> suited well into the picture. 
> 
> Welcome to the list. I as well hope we can discuss much history and not 
> only language. It is a little peculiar that we discuss much more Gothic 
> history on Germanic list than on Gothic where it indeed should be 
> discussed.
> 
> Best greetings
> Ingemar
> 
> --- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, "indiejones46" <indiana.jones465 at ...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am new to this group and first wanted to introduce myself.
> > 
> > My name is Alex and i am interested in Gothic history (especially 
> after reading a book on Alaric the Great). I have a background in 
> archaeology (degree) and attend excavations in my spare time.
> > 
> > I feel i am just starting out on learning about the 'Goth's' and find 
> this Forum useful. So thank you.
> > 
> > I wondered if i could throw out a question that has been intriguing me 
> since i read about this. This is the 'unction' (right word?) of Wamba 
> into a King. Is this the first king of the Visigothic race who was 
> 'crowned' in this way? The description i read of the ceremonial rite 
> seems exceedingly strange.
> > 
> > Does anyone here have a view on this? 
> > 
> > I would be most interested in discussing this further, of course, if 
> others wish to as well.
> > 
> > Alex
> >
> 
> 
> 




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