My Gothic Name Page
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griffon77 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Oct 23 03:54:07 UTC 2012
-mund in ga-mund is equivalent to English "mind" (in OE gemynd), Latin mens, ment-. The mund in Germanic names however is cognate with Latin manus, hand, with a sense of "protection/protector", an figuratve use of the primary sense "hand" derived from idioms such as "place in your hands" "take in hand".
--- In gothic-l at yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Neill <scatha at ...> wrote:
>
> David Salo wrote:
> >
> > Matþaius melida:
> >
> > >I think the ala- prefix is definitely right. The
> > >meaning All-god would certainly not contrast with the Goths' practice of
> > >grandiose names. But I have trouble seeing how they would incorporate
> > >Deus into their native name. Rather, looking first at possible Gothic
> > >(or unattested Gothic) elements, it could be *thiw- or *thiu-, meaning
> > >perhaps custom, law, or virtue (OE theaw), subjugation, crushing or
> > >conquering (OE theow-an), or perhaps be in some way connected with
> > >*thiud- people/tribe.
> >
> > Or thius "servant", OE theow, an element sometimes used (cf. the name
> > of Beowulf's father Ecgtheow "Sword-servant", Go. !Agjathius).
>
> I think I like that idea even beter - making the Greuthugian chief's
> name 'Alhathius' (temple-servant). Some say 'Alatheus' is actually an
> Iranian name, which makes him a Sarmatian or Alan. His companion and
> co-leader of the Greuthugnian refugees of 376 AD is Saphrax, which
> certainly seems to be a Sarmato-Alanic name. I think David's hypothesis
> gives his name a perfectly good Gothic etymology.
>
> How about this one: in his part of the war against the Huns in 376
> Athanaric ('*Athanareik(s)') sent an advance party of Tervingian
> warriors east over the Dneister to scout for the advancing Hunnic
> army. It was led by Munderic and Lagariman.
>
> '-mund' is a common Germanic final nymic element (eg 'Sigemund') and
> is found elsewhere as a initial element (there was a Frankish chief
> in the fifth century who was also called Munderic). Is it related
> to the Gothic 'gamunds' = remembrance? Is this chief therefore
> '*Mundareik(s)'? The '-man' element of the second name suggests
> an obvious meaning, but the initial 'Lagari-' element has me
> stumped. All I can think of is the verb 'lagjan' = to lay, to
> lay down. But I can't see any obvious way this gives the name
> recorded.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Tim O'Neill
> Tasmanian Devil
>
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