l vs. s, sh?
Marie-Lucie Tarpent
mltarpent at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 30 13:17:53 UTC 2011
I find these "changes" from /l/ to a variety of sibilants (without a suggestion of intermediate steps) hard to believe. I don't know the language families in question, let alone the reasons for the reconstruction of */l/ in the specific proto-languages, but could the */l/ be from yet another proto-phoneme, such as a **dental, so that the lateral and the sibilant might have a common ancestor, with the */l/ reconstructed because of its preponderance within the family rather than the phonetic plausibility of *lateral > sibilant? Even assuming that */l/ is the correct reconstruction, it is one thing to say that /s/ is the reflex of */l/ in language X, another to say (or imply) that the change has been (directly) */l/ > /s/.
(The Quechua example seems to be of a different type than the other ones, since it involves a palatalized consonant, not the plain /l/).
marie-lucie tarpent
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:42:02 +0200
From: parkvall at ling.su.se
To: histling-l at mailman.rice.edu
Subject: Re: [Histling-l] l vs. s, sh?
Message body
I haven’t
systematicaly searched for sound changes, but whenever I come
across a table or
the like citing many of them at once, I usually save them in a
file. Who knows what may
come in handy some sunny day? For whatever it’s worth, here are
the cases I
have in that note file which might fit the bill:
* Proto-Algonquian
→ Arapaho: /ɬ/ → /θ/
(Picard
1994:4)
* Proto-Algonquian
→ Blackfoot: /l/ → /ʃ/
(Berman
2006:365)
* Proto-Algonquian
→ Woods Cree: /l/ → /ð/
(Bakker 1996b:5)
* proto-Austronesian
→→ Basay: /l/ → /c/ (Li
2004:367)
* Proto-Min → some Min dialects: /toneless l/ → /ʃ/ (Norman 1988:233)
* Proto-Min → some Western Min dialects:
/toneless l/ → /s/ (Norman
1988:233)
* Proto-Ongamo-Maa → Ngasa: /ɬ/ → /h/ (Vossen & Heine
1989:191-3)
* proto-Quechua → Argentinian Quechua of
Santiago del Estero:
/lʲ/ → /ʒ/ (Adelaar
2004:204) [Citing from memory, doesn't this characterise
Argentinian Spanish as well?]
* proto-Quechua → some Quechua varieties of
Argentina and Ecuador:
/lʲ/ → /ʧ/ (Adelaar
2004:204)
The IPA is in Unicode. I can provide the refs
if anyone needs
them.
/mp
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