Help with Hindi, or, how far out lexically can related languages be?
Lyle Campbell
l.campbell at ling.canterbury.ac.nz
Sun Jun 16 13:16:47 UTC 2002
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Dear HISTLING folks,
Readers of the list might find the following of interest, though I'm
seeking help, with Hindi. I'm attempting to put together a Swadesh list
for the purpose of showing just how different languages known to be
related can become lexically. Unfortunately, I have access to only very
limited Hindi sources (for example in none does a word for 'louse'
occur). The help I am seeking is (1) Hindi equivalents to the English
forms, and corrections of errors in those listed below (unfortunately
the diacritics for nasalization and retroflex, palatal C's, etc. will
not come through in those listed here [seen as "8" or dots or @, and
other funny stuff], but are not a problem to be corrected). (2)
Cognates. I have made my best attempt based on very limited sources to
state which are cognates and which not, but would be grateful for
help/corrections of the codings I have given for cognate status. I fear
some that I suspect of being true cognates are in fact accidental
similarities while I must be missing some true cognates that will appear
here with the wrong code.
(Hans Henrick Hock has made similar points in several publications using
Hindi data, though not restricted to the Swadesh list.)
It is interesting to note that there are only 4 or 5 true cognates that
would be recognized by lexical inspection, perhaps 10 or 12 that might
be accepted, with generous criteria of phonetic similarity. (The exact
number depends on cognate status, of which I am not fully certain for
some forms.)
Many thanks,
Lyle
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What I have written is:
Consider the comparisons of English-Hindi words on the Swadesh 100-word
list; I mark the forms with the following codes before the numbers:
+: true cognate which would be recognized by the methods utilized by
global etymologists
+?: true cognate which might be accepted by global etymologists, though
are by no means obvious
-: non-cognate form which would nevertheless be accepted by the methods
-?: non-cognate form which perhaps would be accepted by the methods,
though it should not be
#: true cognates which would be missed by the methods of global etymology
#?: true cognates which very likely would be missed by the methods,
though perhaps not:
English Hindi
1 I mai) (but see me)
2 you a:p (polite), tum, tu: (informal)
#3 we ham (cf. Sanskrit vayam we)
4 this yah
5 that vah
+? 6 what kya: (certainly not clear from modern English [w´t] alone)
+? 7 who kaun (certainly not clear from modern English [hu] alone)
+8 not nahi)
9 all sab
10 many bahut
11 one e:k
+12 two do:
-? 13 big bara:
-? 14 long lamba:
15 small chota:
16 woman stri:, aurat
17 man a:dmi:, purus8
18 person vyakti:
19 fish machli:
20 bird paks at i:
21 dog kutta:
22 louse ?
23 tree pe:r
24 seed bi:j
25 leaf patta:, patra
26 root mu:l
27 bark chha:l(f.)/post/kha:l
29 flesh mã:s
30 blood xu:n, lahu
31 bone had8d8i:
32 egg anda:
33 grease charbi/chikna:'i
#34 horn si):g
35 tail dum/pu):chh
-36 feather par
37 hair ba:l
#38 head sir
39 ear kan
-40 eye ã:kh
+?41 nose na:k
+?42 mouth mu)h
+?43 tooth da):t
44 tongue ji:bh
45 claw chã:gul/na:xun/pã:jah
#?46 foot pã:v, pair
+?47 knee ghut8na
-48 hand ha:th
-?49 belly pe:t8
50 neck gardan
51 breast chha:ti:
52 heart dil
53 liver jigar/kaleyja
54 drink pi:-
55 eat kha:-
56 bite ka:t-
57 see de:kh-
58 hear sun-
#59 know ja:n- (certainly not clear from modern English [nou] alone)
60 sleep so:-
61 die mar-
62 kill ma:r-/ma:r d8a:l-na:/
63 swim tair-
64 fly ur8-
65 walk chal- walk, ja:- walk, go
66 come a:-
-67 lie let-
68 sit baith-
69 stand khara standing
70 give de:-
71 say kah-
-72 sun su:raj, su:rya
73 moon chã:d, cha:ndra
+74 star ta:r, sita:ra:
75 water pa:ni:
76 rain ba:ris@
77 stone patthar
78 sand ba:lu/reyg/reyt
79 earth zami:n, prithvi:
80 cloud ba:dal
81 smoke dhuã:
82 fire a:g
83 ash ra:kh/xa:k
84 burn jal-
-85 path pagd8an8d8i:, pa:th
86 mountain paha:r
87 red la:l
-?88 green hara:
89 yellow pi:la:
90 white safe:d
91 black ka:la:
92 night ra:t
93 hot garm
94 cold thanda:
+?95 full pu:ra:
96 good accha:
+?97 new naya:
98 round go:l
99 dry su:kha:
+100 name na:m
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