Indigenous Peoples Issues & Resources

Tue Jul 6 04:16:14 UTC 2010

Thanks Richard...that would be great...to receive your writings. I have 
no idea what the course will be by the time it is finished but with so 
many ideas to bring forward and the ideas the students will input, the 
course should finish but not end...kinda spiral like.

The image is great and takes me to images of Uroborus. Interesting also 
how the image clearly shows what is outside the spiral is also the 
spiral...a bit of shameless self promotion here...the first poem in my 
book of poems, 'seven deer dancing' reads as follows:

*oscillations*

you must sleep
you must dream

your dreaming
must dream me
or i cannot dream you
into my dream

breathing--

in and out
     motionless
under archaic lapis

in and out
     like a bronze man breathing
his azury breath
at the azury centre of time
released from all destructions—

   "what does all this have to do with technology? I wanna hear about 
the latest electronic gagets! not spirals!" I think it all indicates so 
clearly how extremely far technology has still to come... Stephen 
Hawking, in my very bad paraphrase, suggests physics, science, 
technology can take us only to the 'event'. Gods must take you beyond. 
Not to be blasphemous or initiate aggression, I have always believed 
poets and artists can also take you beyond where science cannot go...

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wahjeh
rolland nadjiwon
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A clear conscience is usually a sign of a bad memory…
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On 05/07/2010 10:27 PM, Richard Zane Smith wrote:
> Hey thats pretty interesting Heather,
> something pretty universal with that thing.
> I wonder if maybe someones thinking "what does all this have to do 
> with technology?
> I wanna hear about the latest electronic gagets! not spirals!"
> For scientists,(poor things),it'll almost take a Physics approach to 
> come even near this stuff.
> Oh and Rolland ,
>  yeah! use what you want , of course! I'm honored!
> i've been writing more stuff about the spiral .... for what its worth,
> I can send it to you. I think the Spiral can be an  ancient key to open
> basic universals of Change, Pattern and Mystery that can apply to 
> everything from
> the cycles of days,months,years,ages, human life  patterns,
> to describing the birth rise peak decline and collapse of 
> civilizations (see jpg)
> of religions, of personal life and cultural life. Maybe as an 
> artist/craftsman
> I like to see simple basic patterns in things.... nothing fancy or 
> high-tech...
>
> ske:noh
> Richard
>
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> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Heather Souter <hsouter at gmail.com 
> <mailto:hsouter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Taanshi.
>
>     Wahwaa!  Tapwee lii boñ nistwer.  Kihchi-maarsii!    Wow!  Some
>     really wonderful stories.  Thank-you very much!
>
>     I remember having to write "my own cosmology" for a course I did
>     at UBC some years ago....  The images that came to my mind were of
>     spirals within spirals and multiple "returns to origin"....  It
>     was nothing like what I had been taught in the course
>     (Geophysics/Astrophysics)!   LOL!   Anyhow,  I continue to ponder
>     the images ever since....
>
>     Kihchi-maarsii por tii parol!   Thank-you for your words!
>
>     Eekoshi.  That's it.
>     Heather Souter
>
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>     On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon <mikinakn at shaw.ca
>     <mailto:mikinakn at shaw.ca>> wrote:
>
>         ...that is so great and strengthening to hear such positive
>         comments and postings...a good feeling to know everyone we
>         really need is already here...megwetch MJ Hardman...
>
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>         wahjeh
>         rolland nadjiwon
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>
>         A clear conscience is usually a sign of a bad memory…
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>         On 05/07/2010 4:02 PM, MJ Hardman wrote:
>>         Ay, Rolland, write what you remember, to leave it for your
>>         grandchildren and their grandchildren; you are right, I’m
>>         sure, that those who are gone knew you would remember.
>>
>>         My husband has just done that — from what his grandparents
>>         and other elders born in the 19th century told him.  It took
>>         him some 15 years.  He is now in his 90s and now, finally,
>>         his book is in press, some 600 pages, at the Universidad de
>>         San Marcos, and they say that it will be used not only in
>>         Tupe but in the whole Province for students in high school so
>>         they may have a history of their own.  It is time.
>>
>>         He drew three maps, one for before the Spanish, one for after
>>         and one modern.  And now he’s thinking of the next book, of
>>         all the more that he’s remembered.
>>
>>         MJ
>>
>>         On 7/5/10 12:30 PM, "Rolland Nadjiwon" <mikinakn at SHAW.CA
>>         <http://mikinakn@SHAW.CA>> wrote:
>>
>>             My wife, my children, my grandchildren tell me I am
>>             becoming forgetful. More of the material/consumerism I
>>             see today is becoming less important and I find myself
>>             thinking about the many things from all my
>>             grandparents/elders I thought I had forgotten. I realize
>>             now, they knew I would remember....
>>
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>>         wahjeh
>>
>>             rolland nadjiwon
>>
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