Indigenous Peoples Issues & Resources

[Richard Zane Smith]

 you noticed something similar there too?

http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~shlede/ying/yang.html
seems to be a fairly good reference to Yin and Yang ?

The unending spiral core has the same interior center line as in the Yin and
Yang
(notice the line dividing the dark and the light side does the same reverse
turn).
its simply placed within a perfect sphere.

about "black" n "white"

Our ancient Wendat/Iroquoian Hero twin stories have similar themes.
positive/negative..good/non-good themes
which often   "explains why we's in the mess we's in"
but I'm wondering if english really fails with these "pictures"
since "Latin-based reasoning" reduces much traditional verb into nouns
and into sheer hard fast categories,files,definitions,continually
and i think we lose something about these "opposites" in translation..
These stories are foundational to our cultures , but until wandat fluency
I feel like i'm only nibbling bits with foreign feeling teeth.

ske:noh
Richard


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Heather Souter <hsouter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, do you see an echo of the Ying and Yang symbol in the spiral....?
>
> Eekoshi.
> Heather
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Richard Zane Smith <rzs at wildblue.net>wrote:
>
>> Hey thats pretty interesting Heather,
>> something pretty universal with that thing.
>> I wonder if maybe someones thinking "what does all this have to do with
>> technology?
>> I wanna hear about the latest electronic gagets! not spirals!"
>> For scientists,(poor things),it'll almost take a Physics approach to come
>> even near this stuff.
>> Oh and Rolland ,
>>  yeah! use what you want , of course! I'm honored!
>> i've been writing more stuff about the spiral .... for what its worth,
>> I can send it to you. I think the Spiral can be an  ancient key to open
>> basic universals of Change, Pattern and Mystery that can apply to
>> everything from
>> the cycles of days,months,years,ages, human life  patterns,
>> to describing the birth rise peak decline and collapse of civilizations
>> (see jpg)
>> of religions, of personal life and cultural life. Maybe as an
>> artist/craftsman
>> I like to see simple basic patterns in things.... nothing fancy or
>> high-tech...
>>
>> ske:noh
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Heather Souter <hsouter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Taanshi.
>>>
>>> Wahwaa!  Tapwee lii boñ nistwer.  Kihchi-maarsii!    Wow!  Some really
>>> wonderful stories.  Thank-you very much!
>>>
>>> I remember having to write "my own cosmology" for a course I did at UBC
>>> some years ago....  The images that came to my mind were of spirals within
>>> spirals and multiple "returns to origin"....  It was nothing like what I had
>>> been taught in the course (Geophysics/Astrophysics)!   LOL!   Anyhow,  I
>>> continue to ponder the images ever since....
>>>
>>> Kihchi-maarsii por tii parol!   Thank-you for your words!
>>>
>>> Eekoshi.  That's it.
>>> Heather Souter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Rolland Nadjiwon <mikinakn at shaw.ca>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  ...that is so great and strengthening to hear such positive comments
>>>> and postings...a good feeling to know everyone we really need is already
>>>> here...megwetch MJ Hardman...
>>>>
>>>> -------
>>>> wahjeh
>>>> rolland nadjiwon
>>>> ______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> A clear conscience is usually a sign of a bad memory…
>>>> ______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/07/2010 4:02 PM, MJ Hardman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ay, Rolland, write what you remember, to leave it for your grandchildren
>>>> and their grandchildren; you are right, I’m sure, that those who are gone
>>>> knew you would remember.
>>>>
>>>> My husband has just done that — from what his grandparents and other
>>>> elders born in the 19th century told him.  It took him some 15 years.  He is
>>>> now in his 90s and now, finally, his book is in press, some 600 pages, at
>>>> the Universidad de San Marcos, and they say that it will be used not only in
>>>> Tupe but in the whole Province for students in high school so they may have
>>>> a history of their own.  It is time.
>>>>
>>>> He drew three maps, one for before the Spanish, one for after and one
>>>> modern.  And now he’s thinking of the next book, of all the more that he’s
>>>> remembered.
>>>>
>>>> MJ
>>>>
>>>> On 7/5/10 12:30 PM, "Rolland Nadjiwon" <mikinakn at SHAW.CA> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  My wife, my children, my grandchildren tell me I am becoming
>>>> forgetful. More of the material/consumerism I see today is becoming less
>>>> important and I find myself thinking about the many things from all my
>>>> grandparents/elders I thought I had forgotten. I realize now, they knew I
>>>> would remember....
>>>>
>>>>  -------
>>>> wahjeh
>>>>
>>>> rolland nadjiwon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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