Fwd: Re: Pre-Basque Phonology

Patrick C. Ryan proto-language at email.msn.com
Wed Dec 8 23:59:39 UTC 1999

Dear Vartan and IEists:

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vartan and Nairy Matiossian" <varny at cvtci.com.ar>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 1:48 AM


> I would like to make a correction. Armenian <ort'> (not <ort>) doesn't
> mean 'wine', but 'grapevine, grape'. There are two plausible hypotheses
> regarding its IE origins, by Pedersen and Ajarian. The latter adds that
> Albanian <ard, ardhi> is unrelated to the Arm. term. Incidentally,
> "wine" is "gini" in Armenian, both English and Armenian terms coming
> from a common PIE source, seemingly borrowed from Proto-Semitic
> (according to V. Illyich-Svidich).

I have heard this claim often but frankly have never run into anyone who is
willing to defend the proposition.

Are you game? Or is VIS the last word on it?


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at ek hekk, vindga meipi, nftr allar nmu, geiri undapr . . . a ~eim meipi er
mangi veit hvers hann af rstum renn." (Havamal 138)

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