using words or trials as subjects

[Margaret Friend]

Okay!  Thanks for the update!

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Evan Kidd <evan.kidd at anu.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> Psycholinguistics is moving on from min'F now -- see the 2008 special
> issue of Journal of Memory and Language on emerging data analysis
> techniques: (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0749596X/59)
>
> The Jaeger (2008) paper provides a good example of logit mixed models
> using (categorical) acquisition data.
>
> Evan
>
> On 10/31/12, *Susan Gelman * <gelman at umich.edu> wrote:
>
> I agree with Erika.  Here's the citation:
>
> Clark, H. H. (1973). The language-as-fixed-effect fallacy: A critique of
> language statistics in psychological research. *Journal of Verbal
> Learning and Verbal Behavior, 12*, 335-359.
>
> -Susan Gelman
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Erika Hoff <erikachoff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You might be talking about F prime--as opposed to the typical F. I think
>> the argument is that one should do both because your words are sampled from
>> the population of words just as your subjects are sampled from the
>> population of people. I believe--and this is a long term memory experiment
>> for me--the original reference is Herb Clark 1973.
>>
>> See what others have to say.
>>
>> Erika Hoff
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Margaret Friend <
>> mfriend at sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I am looking for a paper and I'm not sure where to begin.  We have a
>>> study with a small sample but many, many trials.  We would like to organize
>>> our data by trial (rather than subject) as this gives us much greater power
>>> and also allows us to ask about relations within the data on a trial by
>>> trial basis.  I seem to recall an older paper on doing something like this:
>>>  transposing data to treat words as subjects.
>>>
>>> Does anyone remember this paper and, if so, would you please send me the
>>> citation?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Maggie
>>>
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Department of Psychology
and Doctoral Program in Language and Communicative Disorders
Department of Speech, Language, and Hearing Sciences
San Diego State University
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