using words or trials as subjects

Wed Oct 31 11:31:46 UTC 2012

R.H. Baayen (2009).  Analyzing Linguistic Data:  A practical introduction
statistics using R  - this is a must-read for using logit mixed models (or
linear models) for anyone who wants  to use  R to analyze psycholinguistic
data

Henrietta

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Margaret Friend
<mfriend at sciences.sdsu.edu>wrote:

> Okay!  Thanks for the update!
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Evan Kidd <evan.kidd at anu.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Psycholinguistics is moving on from min'F now -- see the 2008 special
>> issue of Journal of Memory and Language on emerging data analysis
>> techniques: (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0749596X/59)
>>
>> The Jaeger (2008) paper provides a good example of logit mixed models
>> using (categorical) acquisition data.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>> On 10/31/12, *Susan Gelman *<gelman at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Erika.  Here's the citation:
>>
>> Clark, H. H. (1973). The language-as-fixed-effect fallacy: A critique of
>> language statistics in psychological research. *Journal of Verbal
>> Learning and Verbal Behavior, 12*, 335-359.
>>
>> -Susan Gelman
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Erika Hoff <erikachoff at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You might be talking about F prime--as opposed to the typical F. I think
>>> the argument is that one should do both because your words are sampled from
>>> the population of words just as your subjects are sampled from the
>>> population of people. I believe--and this is a long term memory experiment
>>> for me--the original reference is Herb Clark 1973.
>>>
>>> See what others have to say.
>>>
>>> Erika Hoff
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Margaret Friend <
>>> mfriend at sciences.sdsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for a paper and I'm not sure where to begin.  We have a
>>>> study with a small sample but many, many trials.  We would like to organize
>>>> our data by trial (rather than subject) as this gives us much greater power
>>>> and also allows us to ask about relations within the data on a trial by
>>>> trial basis.  I seem to recall an older paper on doing something like this:
>>>>  transposing data to treat words as subjects.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone remember this paper and, if so, would you please send me
>>>> the citation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Maggie
>>>>
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