[Lexicog] new nosey word

[Preslav Ivanov Nakov]

I can clearly here a sort of vowel between "t" and "l" (if you want, "a
short voiceless vowel"). You can consult the Merriam-Webster Online
Dictionary (www.webster.com), you can see that even the form "bottling",
which doesn't need a vowel between t and l, could well have one:
/'bä-t&l-i[ng], 'bät-li[ng]/

A similar thing happens in French, e.g. "prendre". Where they add some sort
of vowel at the end, after the "e". BTW the Cyrillic letter for the same
"discriminated" Slavonic vowel used to be written at the end of the words
ending with a consonant until 60 years ago. And it used to be pronounced
centuries ago.

I guess the main thing it: are these kinds of short vowels a vowel or not?
To me it is more a question of definition.

Preslav

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Kirk [mailto:peterkirk at qaya.org] 

>
English, or at least some dialects of it, also has syllabic L and R 
sounds, as well as nasals. Try saying "bottled". I think everyone would 
agree that this word has two syllables, but there is not really a 
distinct vowel sound between the T and the L, and certainly none after 
the L.



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