[Lexicog] semantics

[Fritz Goerling]

Haim, L'Chayim!

Thank you. I like both proverbs.
The underlying time concept in the Russian one seems to have the Hebrew
sense of Qohelet and of Greek kairos
or ordained time or time that is ripe. Is it equivalent to "Never count your
chickens before they are hatched?"
I  add to the Greek one a biblical one: "Laughter is the best medicine"
(Proverbs 17:22)

Shabbat Shalom,
Fritz


  Fritz,



  The first thing that came to my mind is the famous Greek proverb: Ho
khronos farmakon estin (The time is the best medicine)

  Or Russian Tsypliat po oseni schitaiut (It is worth to count chikens at
fall), there is no word ‘time’ here, but the concept of a period from spring
to fall and a concept of a competion..





  Best wishes,

  Hayim Sheynin



  -----Original Message-----
  From: Fritz Goerling [mailto:Fritz_Goerling at sil.org]
  Sent: ו 17 דצמבר 2004 07:09
  To: lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Lexicog] semantics



  I  would be interested in collocations, expressions, idioms and proverbs
with "time"

  in languages other than English.

  The contributions can be about chronological time or other concepts of
time.



  Examples from English:



  to waste, save, gain, lose time; time is money; time will tell; time is on
one's side;

  to run out of time



  German: "die Zeit heilt alle Wunden" (time heals all wounds)

  Bible: "There is a time for everything" (Ecclesiastes)



  Fritz Goerling





    There was a posting yesterday in the Corpora-List which referred to a
    term that I had not run across before, 'semantic prosody'.  The notion
    is that some words collocate not just with particular other words ('arm'
    and 'akimbo'), but with semantic classes of words ('career' tends to
    collate with words that have a positive sense, whereas 'job' exhibits no
    such tendency).

    I suspect this is a largely unexplored area of lexicography, although I
    could just be ignorant.  At any rate, one of the msgs in that list gave
    a link to a recent on-line thesis by Mike Nelson (Sea Hunt, anyone?)
    which studied business English.  Not one of my favorite subjects, but
    chapter 4 of the thesis surveys a number of concepts that may be of
    interest to this list, including semantic prosody, collocation,
    colligation (another new term to me), and multi-word items.

    The URL is http://www.kielikanava.com/thesis.html.
    --
          Mike Maxwell
          Linguistic Data Consortium
          maxwell at ldc.upenn.edu






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