[Lexicog] Re: lexical entries as singulars or plurals

Fritz Goerling Fritz_Goerling at SIL.ORG
Wed Aug 24 12:37:33 UTC 2005


There are linguistic rules and there are exceptions to them. In dynamic
speech
one can choose to create all kinds of effects by deliberately ignoring
or violating all kinds of rules.

Fritz

  I don't think before stops you can have a long/short or fortis/lenis
contrast.

  Robert
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    From: Fritz Goerling
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    Subject: RE: [Lexicog] Re: lexical entries as singulars or plurals


    For me they are identical in pronunciation in normal speech. Maybe an
actor or someone
    who recites poetry might exaggerate and make the difference by hissing
the double "s".
    Or someone who wants to emphasize the difference in this little saying
might just put more
    stress on the "isst." Or there is a discussion where someone says "Man
ist was man liest"
    (One is what one reads) to which someone more given to the pleasures of
the palate might
    reply "Nein, man ist was man ISST" (No, one is what one eats).

    Fritz Goerling
      Fritz Goerling wrote:
      > the point of the little world-play is in the similar-sounding
      > "ist" (= is) and "isst" (= eats).

      Are they similar sounding, or identical?  If different, what is the
      difference?  (I vaguely recall my German prof claiming that they were
      pronounced differently, but not being able to hear any diff.  Of
course,
      that was before my linguistics days.)
      --
            Mike Maxwell
            Linguistic Data Consortium
            maxwell at ldc.upenn.edu



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