[Lexicog] The influence of Shakespeare on the English language and of Luther on German

[Margaret Marks]

I must admit that Linsengericht sounds better than a mess of pottage.

The scapegoat was apparently coined by Tyndale. I presume we can trust the
OED on that.

Regards and good night.

Margaret

On 5/20/07, Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling at sil.org> wrote:
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>  Hi, Margaret,
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> You are a good debater. There were other translations into German before
> Luther, but Luther's imposed itself. Many of the words he coined were copied
> by later German translators of the Bible (also "Linsengericht"). And there
> are as many translations of the Bible in German as there are in English. I
> am sure even coinages and expressions from the fairly literal King James
> version have "made it" into everyday speech in English.
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> "Sündenbock" (in English "scapegoat") is an especially good word creation
> by Luther. I dare to say "scapegoat" is also a good one.
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> Which translator coined it? William Tyndale or John Wycliffe? Do you or
> anyone on the list have the answer?
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> Best wishes,
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> Fritz
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> Hi Fritz,
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>  On 5/20/07, *Fritz Goerling* <Fritz_Goerling at sil.org> wrote:
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> Margaret,
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> Luther's influence in enriching the German language should not be
> overestimated but not underestimated either.
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> As you know German, here are a just a few examples from Luther's coinages
> of new words and reinterpetations of words:
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> *Wortsch**�pfungen* Luthers: Gnadenbild, -lehre, Gottesbild, - liebe,
> Glaubenskampf, Glaubenssache, S�ndenbock, Feuereifer, Linsengericht,
> Hochmut, Wohlgefallen, Bubest�ck, Machtwort, nacheifern, geistreich; Stein
> des Ansto�es, ein Dorn im Auge, durch die Finger sehen, Wer anderen eine
> Grube ....
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> *Neubedeutungen*: Beruf, Bu�e, fromm, gerecht, entr�stet, anfahren
> ("heftig ansprechen)"
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> I must admit that I was not thinking of Luther's effect on Christian and
> Biblical language, but on the German language in general. I am sure you are
> right about these terms. The fact that Luther created the German versions of
> Biblical sayings, such as einem anderen eine Grube graben does go without
> saying. But did he really create 'Linsengericht'? Surely as long as there
> are Linsen and Gerichte, someone else would have done it?
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> Regards
> Margaret
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