[Lexicog] Lexique Pro dictionary components
Erdogan Boz
dr.erdoganboz at GMAIL.COM
Sat Apr 26 19:12:25 UTC 2014
There was someone in this group:)
26 Nisan 2014 Cumartesi tarihinde, Melissa Axelrod <axelrod at unm.edu> yazdı:
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> Nice list!
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> On Apr 26, 2014, at 12:41 PM, "Bill Poser" <billposer2 at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','billposer2 at gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
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> Here are a few suggestions for fields to include:
> (a) meaning note - you may want your English gloss to be brief, e.g. so
> that it can be used as a headword in a printed dictionary or so that it
> will fit in a fixed position in an on-line one, or so that it can easily be
> used for lookup in the English->Mojave direction. You can use the meaning
> note field to expand on the meaning of the word.
>
> (b) scientific name - for living things. Anyone doing biological work
> will appreciate this. One virtue of the scientific name is that many
> organisms have multiple English names and that the same name may refer to
> different species in different areas, or when used by lay people and
> biologists.
>
> (c) synonyms
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> (d) closely related words with distinct meanings (e.g. in my dictionaries
> "waterfall with turbulent flow" contains a cross-reference to "waterfall
> with laminar flow".)
>
> (e) register - is the word vulgar, no longer in use, old-fashioned,
> high-falutin, slang, etc.
>
> (f) semantic field - is the word the name of a bird, a fish, an animal, a
> tool, a body part, a kinship term, something to do with religion,
> education, hunting, etc. This will come in handy if you want to generate a
> topical index, or if, in your electronic dictionary, you want the user who
> has looked up a word to be able to explore by moving on to other words in
> the same category.
>
> (g) grammatical categories such as tense, mood, aspect, and negation -
> these are useful if you are listing inflected forms separately. You can use
> this information to search for examples of a particular category, e.g. all
> the future negative verb forms. It also relieves you of the need to attempt
> to convey in the English gloss grammatical information that doesn't have
> any simple English equivalent (e.g. an imperfective/perfective distinction).
>
> (h) grammar notes - this is a place in which you can explain what kind of
> complements a verb takes and things like that.
>
> (i) inflected forms - if you are treating inflected forms of a certain
> category together, it may still be useful to record individual inflected
> forms as part of the entry. For example, you might want to have fields for
> the various possessed forms of nouns, or plurals, or vocatives if your
> language has such things, especially when they are irregular.
>
> (j) data sources - where does the information come from? In addition to
> the names of speakers who provided the information, you may have
> information that comes from other dictionaries or from texts produced by a
> group or of anonymous authorship.
>
> (k) etymology - where does the word come from?
>
> (l) inverse header - depending on how you are doing things, it can be
> useful to include in an entry the headword or headwords under which you
> would want to find the entry when going from, e.g., English to Mojave.
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> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Richard Gravina <
> Richard-Sue_Gravina at sil.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Richard-Sue_Gravina at sil.org');>
> > wrote:
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>> Have you also looked at programs such as Fieldworks and WeSay? Lexique
>> Pro is good for displaying dictionaries, but for building a dictionary
>> these other programs are better.
>>
>> When it comes to deciding which components to include, it would be best
>> to get the advice of a linguist who is familiar with your language, or
>> other related languages. There may be grammatical properties that it is
>> important to include, but those will be specific to the language.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> *From:* Benjamin Barrett<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','benjaminbarrett85 at gmail.com');>
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2014 9:26 PM
>> *To:* lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lexicographylist at yahoogroups.com');>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lexicog] Lexique Pro dictionary components
>>
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>> I cannot help with Lexique, but I have been working on a pilot project
>> for Lushootseed using the Wiki Foundation (Wikipedia, Wiktionary, etc.)
>> software, which is free, flexible and easily accessible. (Configuration is
>> not easy as the instructions that are available can be difficult to
>> follow.)
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>> You can see my beta project at:
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>> http://lushootseed.langrev.com/wiktionary/Main_Page
>> http://lushootseed.langrev.com/wiktionary/sqig%CA%B7%C9%99c
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>> HTH
>> Ben Barrett
>> La Conner, WA
>>
>> Learn Ainu! https://sites.google.com/site/aynuitak1/videos
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 7:36 AM, nataliegdiaz at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nataliegdiaz at gmail.com');>wrote:
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>> Hello.
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>> I am a new member to the group, and my Elders and I are using Lexique Pro
>> to build our heritage language dictionary. I would like to get input as to
>> which components of word meanings you believe are most important to include
>> when building a dictionary. Right now, we have only the basics, such as the
>> english gloss, the definition, part of speech, and we also have multiple
>> audio and video files that allow the word to be heard in a sentence or
>> within a story or song.
>>
>> Our dictionary is intended for our community, as a! learning tool, and as
>> a tool that can help support a language curriculum in the school.
>>
>> But we want to make it as dynamic and helpful as possible, in addition,
>> we hope that it can be helpful to any of our learners who might enter into
>> the linguistic field in the future.
>>
>> As well, any suggestions or tips you might have for working with Lexique
>> will be appreciated and helpful.
>>
>> 'Ahotk
>> Natalie
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