[lg policy] NYTimes.com: Who's White?

[R K Hopson]

Hardly would I associate and generalize these arguments listed below to
everyone.  We don't find folk in southern Africa referring to lighter
skinned San or other Khoe people as white.

Or, maybe I'm missing the argument thread below. What argument are you all
referring to?  Are you taking the argument that the lighter one is the
more they associate or are associated with whiteness?

Whiteness, if there's reason to consider in that part of the world
(southern Africa) has the history of Bantu education and apartheid to
thank for its definitions.  As such, honorary whiteness status was
afforded to certain Indian and Asian groups with economic and symbolic
power.

> I wonder about Botswana, where there are Bantu and lighter skinned San.
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> Stan
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>   I imagine there will be an argument about this but the Rif Mountains in
> Morocco have light skinned, red-haired Berbers, and the Arabs tend to
> consider themselves "better".  I don't know if that has changed with the
> recent revitalization movements of Berber languages and ethnic groups.
> Any Moroccan opinions?  Christina
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>   On Mar 26, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Stan Anonby wrote:
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>     Is there anywhere in the world today where lighter skinned people are
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>                   The History of White People
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>                   Who's White?
>                   By LINDA GORDON
>                   Nell Irvin Painter's accessible study shows that
> deciding who is white has always been heavily influenced
> by class and culture.
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