[lg policy] The Colonisation of Britain Continues: 16% of PrimarySchool Children Do not Speak English as Their Home Language

Stan Anonby stan-sandy_anonby at SIL.ORG
Tue May 18 22:58:36 UTC 2010


Hah!

Great suggestion, Christina!

Stan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christina Paulston" <paulston at pitt.edu>
To: "Language Policy List" <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [lg policy] The Colonisation of Britain Continues: 16% of 
PrimarySchool Children Do not Speak English as Their Home Language


> Hal,
> I have a better suggestion.  Just cut off from the list and blacklist  for 
> the future people who just want their opinions
> published (like whoever Davyth and others are) and who don't  understand 
> that it is crucial to know what all opinions are.
> Then we don't have to waste your time repeatedly with this stuff.   Keep 
> up the good work -- I and my students are most grateful to you,  Christina
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 17, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Harold Schiffman wrote:
>
>> Dear Davyth and others,
>>
>> Here we go again.  I tend to forward messages on the topic of language
>> policy (which often
>> includes immigration policy) even if they originate with groups that
>> most of us would
>> disagree with.  I publish a disclaimer at the end of every message,
>> assuming that folks
>> can figure out what the message is all about, and that it is not the
>> opinion of myself, or
>> of others on this list.  I assume (as do many others) that we need to
>> know what such
>> groups are saying, even if we don't agree with them.  I've gotten flak
>> recently for sending
>> some unpleasant messages, but most members seem to support the idea  that 
>> we need
>> to know who our 'enemies' are, and what they are saying.  If however
>> it is the overwhelming opinion
>> of members of this group that we should NOT distribute such messages,
>> I will change my
>> strategy, but I predict that we would then become a 'nicey-nicey'
>> listserv that favors one
>> point of view, and I already see too much of that in various places.
>> (I lived through the loyalty-oath
>> controversies of the 1950's and 60's and would not like to see such a
>> policy take over on this
>> listserv.)
>>
>> Alternatively, should I "bracket" such unpleasant messages with
>> "danger signals" so as to
>> make it clear that it is unpalatable and disgusting, and might offend
>> some of our readers?
>> I could do that, but I think I would soon be more likely to turn this
>> listserv over to someone
>> else to manage.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Hal Schiffman
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Davyth Hicks <davyth.hicks at eurolang.net
>> > wrote:
>>> Hi Harold,
>>>
>>> Are you sure that you should send out this 'report' from the far  right
>>> British National Party and republished on this NPI site?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Davyth Hicks
>>> Eurolang
>>>
>>> Harold Schiffman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Colonisation of Britain Continues: 16% of Primary School  Children
>>>> Do not Speak English as Their Home Language
>>>>
>>>> According to figures released in 2008, more than 30 state schools in
>>>> England were made up solely of ethnic minority pupils with no white
>>>> children on the roll. The rapid takeover of Britain by non- indigenous
>>>> peoples has been confirmed by new Department of Education figures
>>>> which have revealed that 16 percent of primary school children  aged 11
>>>> and under speak English as a second language. This translates to
>>>> 518,020 pupils. In secondary schools, around 11.6 percent or 378,210
>>>> pupils do not speak English as a first language.
>>>> At special schools, 9,380 pupils, or 10.9 percent, do not speak
>>>> English as a first language.
>>>>
>>>> The final total for all schools is 905,610 pupils, or 14 percent —  but
>>>> this does not include second or third generation immigrant children
>>>> who do speak English at home.The growth in non-indigenous pupil
>>>> numbers also directly parallels the rise in pupils eligible for Free
>>>> School Meals (FSM), which, according to reports, is a measure of
>>>> poverty. In secondary schools, 15.4 percent, or 441,000 pupils, are
>>>> eligible for the dinners, up from 14.5 percent, or 417,970 pupils  last
>>>> year. It means an extra 23,000 secondary school pupils are now
>>>> eligible for the dinners than there were in 2009.
>>>>
>>>> According to University of Bristol research issued in January this
>>>> year, the number of white primary school pupils in London has fallen
>>>> by a quarter since 2002.The research defined a school as “minority
>>>> white” if less than 30 percent of its pupil base was white. Using  that
>>>> measure — which is clearly inadequate — the number of white minority
>>>> primary schools in London rose from 22 percent to 36 percent between
>>>> 2002 and 2008. This means that only 6 percent of primary schools in
>>>> London now have a “substantial white majority,” the researchers  said.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/2010/05/15/the-colonisation-of-britain-continues-16-of-primary-school-children-do-not-speak-english-as-their-home-language/
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>>
>> Harold F. Schiffman
>>
>> Professor Emeritus of
>> Dravidian Linguistics and Culture
>> Dept. of South Asia Studies
>> University of Pennsylvania
>> Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305
>>
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