[lg policy] A request

Fouzi Bellalem fouzibellalem at YAHOO.CO.UK
Tue Apr 12 12:05:07 UTC 2011


Thanks for your comments Christina. Eliman's paper, to my understanding, is actually trying to argue that Maghrebi language is not actually a variety of Arabic (i.e., a vernacular), but rather a more shared form of Berber spoken (also Tamazight) which is labelled a minority language in Norther Africa, hence is uses minority/majority paradigm. In other literature such as the one I am attaching below Vernacular is seen within a paradigm of diglossia. I just wanted to show how complex it is to talk about m/m because of socio-political and cultural factors.
 
Fouzi
 
 
http://citi.aui.ma/shss/abdellah_chekayri/Diglossia_or_Triglossia_in_Morocco_Reality_and_Facts_By_Abdellah_Chekayri_Sept%2029_06.pdf


--- On Mon, 11/4/11, Christina Paulston <paulston at pitt.edu> wrote:


From: Christina Paulston <paulston at pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: [lg policy] A request
To: "Language Policy List" <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
Date: Monday, 11 April, 2011, 16:58



Good example of choosing concepts depending on context. Minority/majority ( from now m/m ) languages are concepts for dealing with bilingualism, not DIGLOSSIA.  It will cause further confusion to discuss Maghrebi as minority language -- that's a matter of High and Low form of Arabic.
French linguists use a group-conflict perspective in interpreting Ferguson, much to his bewilderment ( see EARLY DAYS OF SOCIOLINGUISTICS --Paulston and Tucker) which is waste of a good concept because critical theory could handle that.

Christina










On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Fouzi Bellalem wrote:






Hi everybody. I believe the issue of minority/majority languages is complex as it is hard to reach a general consensus, i.e., each group (i.e., linguists, politicians, sociologists...etc) make a distinction with reference to their own beliefs and experiences, but also according to their own interests (acedemic, political, material...etc). 
 
I can think of Vernacular Arabic in the Maghreb (North Africa) where although it is a majority language with reference to its users, it is however labelled as minority because it is not officially recognised by the governments. Please see the link below for a paper that discusses this issue (it's in French though). I hope this helps.
 
Fouzi
 
http://www.u-picardie.fr/LESCLaP/IMG/pdf/elimam_maghribi-2.pdf

--- On Sat, 9/4/11, Zaidi <manoo at brunet.bn> wrote:


From: Zaidi <manoo at brunet.bn>
Subject: [lg policy] A request
To: "'Language Policy List'" <lgpolicy-list at groups.sas.upenn.edu>
Date: Saturday, 9 April, 2011, 16:53




Friends
In what context(s) can a majority language be considered a minority
language? Are there some examples?
Many thanks and Regards.
Abbas Zaidi

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