[lg policy] Vernacular vs Dialect Debate

mostari hind hmostari at YAHOO.COM
Thu Mar 6 18:48:06 UTC 2014


Dear Graves ,
Thanks for your comment but it does not give a thorough distinction between the concepts . Waiting for your comments dear members 

Dr Mostaro 



On Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:02 PM, Jeremy Graves <jayrkirk42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
 
My understanding is that you're touching on a never-ending debate within Linguistics. I usually hear it framed in terms of dialect vs. language, not necessarily vernacular. However, I suspect the same principles apply. From an objective scientific point-of-view, what qualifies as the same language may be considered separate languages by different groups of speakers for political or cultural reasons. In my language and society class, we've repeatedly touched on the idea that language attitude trumps Linguistics - that is to say, what speakers themselves perceive as separate dialects (or vernacular varieties) is more important than the objective Linguistic reality.



On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:42 PM, mostari hind <hmostari at yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Dear List Member , 

For verrnacular vs dialect distinction; I noticed that some authors prefer using the term dialect, while others use as a synonym the term vernacular . Nevertheless, I got a Pr in linguistics who confirms that vernacular is a variety which is socially and economically dominated by another group .
Stewart ( 1963) suggests that the only difference is that vernacular is a standardized variety whereas dialect is not !
I am a bit confused , is there any comments on this?

Best
Dr Mostari 
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